Which is fairer? Coronavirus implications

[mil1lion]

This isn't going to peak in this country for about ten weeks. There's no way that they should be letting people into stadiums while this is ongoing. And players are going to keep getting sick and need to self isolate.

Even though you're more likely to catch it at home around family and friends than in a stadium. If you catch it stay home and recover then return. So teams will have players out from game to game but those players will build immunity to it. We need more people to catch it anyway.

 

[Thewobbler]

So cancel cup games that bring revenue for smaller club's, remove club's (Less games) from the bottom tear league.... Yeah can't see that happening as would put more club's in danger of going broke.

Im sure the top clubs in football and the FA could look after the smaller clubs with handouts for one season.

 

[Yid-ol]

Im sure the top clubs in football and the FA could look after the smaller clubs with handouts for one season.

Depending on how long games are off for, and wages to still pay... That might not be as easy as it sounds.

 

[Gb160]

Scrap the season anything for Liverpool to not win the league

Absolutely staggering that some are suggesting giving Liverpool the title.
I couldn't give a fuck if it aint fair.

 

[Thewobbler]

Depending on how long games are off for, and wages to still pay... That might not be as easy as it sounds.

Either way it goes, there is going to be a lot of money lost for certain clubs especially those thinking they are going to get promoted only for the season to null and void.

I see that karen brady wants is void for obvious reasons.

 

[VegasII]

If it looks we might be back in action for 20/21 season in August then pre-season friendlies should be prem clubs playing lower league sides to help with the lower league sides’ revenues. None of this emirates
trophy (and the like) shite where big, rich teams play each other.

Our pre season matches could be against the likes of Orient, Colchester, Cambridge, Southend and Gillingham.

The premier league needs to help the lower leagues out.

 

[Dannyspur]

The good old Pools Panel will sit and decide the results - they always get it right

 

[LukaMotion]

Seen a few mentions in the media of one potential issue to restarting the season after a lengthy break, the need to get players back to match fitness. Could the remaining games potentially be reduced to 70 mins total to help combat the overall lack of match-fitness league wide?

 

[Marty]

If it looks we might be back in action for 20/21 season in August then pre-season friendlies should be prem clubs playing lower league sides to help with the lower league sides’ revenues. None of this emirates
trophy (and the like) shite where big, rich teams play each other.

Our pre season matches could be against the likes of Orient, Colchester, Cambridge, Southend and Gillingham.

The premier league needs to help the lower leagues out.

I wish this would happen but I'm still angry we didn't even play Orient in a Justin Edinburgh memorial game last summer.

The leadership at the top clubs only look after themselves.

 

[nailsy]

Even though you're more likely to catch it at home around family and friends than in a stadium. If you catch it stay home and recover then return. So teams will have players out from game to game but those players will build immunity to it. We need more people to catch it anyway.

That might be true at the moment, but I doubt it will be true when this thing hits its peak. The message the government gives us will change as more cases develop. They won't allow mass gatherings once this is in full swing.

 

[nailsy]

I wish this would happen but I'm still angry we didn't even play Orient in a Justin Edinburgh memorial game last summer.

The leadership at the top clubs only look after themselves.

I don't blame them for not doing anything last summer as it happened right at the end of the season when it would have been difficult to change plans, but I was hoping that they'd do something this summer.

 

[rossdapep]

Absolutely staggering that some are suggesting giving Liverpool the title.
I couldn't give a fuck if it aint fair.

Nobody was in our corner during Lasagne gate. In fact everyone else revelled in it.

 

[UbeAstard]

Option A for me, want to laugh at the scousers....

 

[mil1lion]

That might be true at the moment, but I doubt it will be true when this thing hits its peak. The message the government gives us will change as more cases develop. They won't allow mass gatherings once this is in full swing.

I'm not sure what people expect will happen with a mass gathering. It's not like you come in contact with each other. We just need to ensure there is plenty of hand wash and that staff follow proper hygiene to reduce risk. If you're elderly and have pre existing health conditions then you should stay away. In those cases or for anyone who is sick already stay home and receive a refund. If it peaks in June the season is over anyway.

 

[TonyS]

I disagree. As a lawyer, I would be slow to advise a club to be seen to be seeking damages on the back of a global pandemic that will have killed thousands. Terrible for reputation.

There'll be a gentleman's agreement between the clubs to not do this.

Doubt it

 

[TonyS]

Who do you think they could sue, and for what exactly ?

Loss of matchday earnings for something along these lines is something the clubs could insure against if they choose to
Sue the Premier League, well each club is one of the 20 equal shareholders of the League, so sue themselves ?
The one thing the clubs cannot afford to give up is the money received from TV, that is why they will have to finish this season to honour that contract,even if this one ends in September and then cram the next in November to June next year, and adjust match calendar so teams can opt out of the cups for example.

Loss of earnings for a start.

Who do you think they could sue, and for what exactly ?

Loss of matchday earnings for something along these lines is something the clubs could insure against if they choose to
Sue the Premier League, well each club is one of the 20 equal shareholders of the League, so sue themselves ?
The one thing the clubs cannot afford to give up is the money received from TV, that is why they will have to finish this season to honour that contract,even if this one ends in September and then cram the next in November to June next year, and adjust match calendar so teams can opt out of the cups for example.

So let's say they stop this season as is and the bottom three now get relegated. Do you think they would just accept it?? Not a chance

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I think all this talk of possible legal action this and that way is probably overly hyped. There are most likely more than enough contractual clauses to account for major, unforeseen, devastating events, and as long as the governing bodies don't reach extremely stupid conclusions, they probably can't be sued that easily. There is not going to be any one single way that is "fair". "Fair" is out the window. What matters now, is that Tottenham plays CL next time the competition starts.

 

[Trotter]

Loss of earnings for a start.

What loss of earnings are you referring to, and who would they sue, and on what grounds ?
I don't think Chinese bats have money.
The only people they could sue is the Premier League themselves, of which they are an equal shareholder, and an equal decision maker. The clubs will come to a decision, and where teams are hurt they will come to financial settlements mutually agreed.


So let's say they stop this season as is and the bottom three now get relegated. Do you think they would just accept it?? Not a chance

That is not going to happen though.

The only realistic options are

1. Declare season over, relegate nobody, promote up 2 teams from EFL, play with 22 next season, with either 2 up 4 down, or 3 up 5 down next year.

2, Void season, and financially compensate EFL teams.

In both above a decision would need to be made about European places, and logic would suggest current league placings, with a financial adjustment on sliding scale for those other teams. We are 75% through season, that cannot just be ignored.

3. Continue this season to its natural conclusion, be that in June, July, or even into September, and adjust next season's match calendar accordingly. I think that is the most logical solution, be it with crowds or behind closed doors, and even held at training grounds or neutral venues if applicable, with players and support staff under isolation.

I am sure we will also look at what other European Leagues are doing, and UEFA announcements in respect of their competitions before any decisions are made.

 

[Tit&Ham]

Opinion only:
No chance in hell the season is finished later on.
- Clubs will have new cases of outbreak for months still.
- in the summer/Autumn when things may Start to normalize the players will need a new pre-season and a lot will be out of contract.
They may Even have to postpone the start of next season.

what solution can they land on?
Pretty much up in the air, but most of them are going to be unfair one way or another.

My guess would be to please everyone:
Liverpool Champions
City (bar legal case), Spurs, Chelsea, Leicester to Get CL
Wolves, United, Arsenal, Sheffield United Get EL
No teams relegated
West brom and Leeds promoted

the biggest problem with this is the teams fighting for promotion in Championship...

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Opinion only:
No chance in hell the season is finished later on.
- Clubs will have new cases of outbreak for months still.
- in the summer/Autumn when things may Start to normalize the players will need a new pre-season and a lot will be out of contract.
They may Even have to postpone the start of next season.

what solution can they land on?
Pretty much up in the air, but most of them are going to be unfair one way or another.

My guess would be to please everyone:
Liverpool Champions
City (bar legal case), Spurs, Chelsea, Leicester to Get CL
Wolves, United, Arsenal, Sheffield United Get EL
No teams relegated
West brom and Leeds promoted

the biggest problem with this is the teams fighting for promotion in Championship...

I'm not saying you are wrong, who knows, but what is the exact rationale for just handing Spurs a CL spot in this scenario?