We need a new Chairman

[Colonel Dax]

Wasting your time mate, 45 people have said that they will never lose patience with Levy in the thread I started.
So basically he can do what the fuck he likes

Spot on. I found the results of that poll very revealing.

Although I've lost patience with Levy, I respect those who take a different stance. I think on both sides of the argument there is a recognition of Levy's strengths *and* weaknesses. However there are quite a few on this forum who blindly support the chairman. It's utterly bizarre. There is less worship of leaders in religious cults!

 

[StartingPrice]

Never seen a thread on this before.

 

[NEVILLEB]

It is not worth mate, he is in a world of his own.

I'm in the real world where normal people see the same mistakes Levy has made.

Spot on. I found the results of that poll very revealing.

Although I've lost patience with Levy, I respect those who take a different stance. I think on both sides of the argument there is a recognition of Levy's strengths *and* weaknesses. However there are quite a few on this forum who blindly support the chairman. It's utterly bizarre. There is less worship of leaders in religious cults!

Yes it's almost cult like.

And it's a lot of the same members who were crowing about AVB and his incredible tactics.

 

[Mullers]

Spot on. I found the results of that poll very revealing.

Although I've lost patience with Levy, I respect those who take a different stance. I think on both sides of the argument there is a recognition of Levy's strengths *and* weaknesses. However there are quite a few on this forum who blindly support the chairman. It's utterly bizarre. There is less worship of leaders in religious cults!

But why though? I don´t understand it, I don´t understand the hold he has over people.

 

[Mullers]

To address the opening post, Sherwood has to take some responsibilty for the results, team related stuff, he is the coach he got some praise when things were going well, the man who appointed him and sacked the previous coach is Levy so yes he must/should also take responsibility but as I said previously the usual suspects refuse to acknowledge that he is responsible for anything when things are not going well.

 

[tiger666]

But why though? I don´t understand it, I don´t understand the hold he has over people.

Newsflash: Not everyone has the same opinion as you.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

But why though? I don´t understand it, I don´t understand the hold he has over people.

Sunday, June the 15th 2014. Cast your eyes toward the BSoDL, did you think it was something I just made up out of thin air or something?

 

[Mullers]

Newsflash: Not everyone has the same opinion as you.

Newsflash: I know that.

That is not the problem, as Colonal Dax there is a group that just blindly support Levy and refuse to acknowledge the mistakes he´s made or weaknesses, hence I guess the reason why the term BSoDL was invented by A&C.

 

[NEVILLEB]

But why though? I don´t understand it, I don´t understand the hold he has over people.

It's not him, it's just that there's always a proportion of people who blindly follow anyone who's in charge and can't abide any criticism of them.

They'd have been the same people telling you how Sugar saved the club and warning us against a new Chairman.

Sheep.

 

[NEVILLEB]

AVB's biggest fan? i'm not sure you've got the right person. I just can't stand whiny little bitches like you who pop up every time we go through a rough patch and start calling for someone's head. You wanted AVB out, you got your wish and look how much better off we are. Now you want Levy out whilst blindly ignoring the obvious progression during his tenure. Be careful what you wish for, you seem to want some kind of quick fix solution all the time, may I suggest supporting City or Chelsea.

KingKay - AVB Sacked Thread - Dec 16th

"Pathetic. Congratulations to the set of fans who had it in for AVB from the start, you got your way.

I feel completely disillusioned with the whole club and for the first time I find myself questioning Levy and the board.

Still shocked so I'll refrain from saying anything too drastic, but I'm not sure I can continue on this constant merry-go-round, especially as we now seem to have to battle some of our own fans. It's just not enjoyable anymore, the whole atmosphere is poisonous.

I just want to enjoy supporting spurs again, fuck success."





Quite clearly a big fan of AVB and also disillusioned with the club and questioning Levy's decisions. Specifically citing the constant merry go round of managers.

But hey, that was 3 months ago!

How are you supposed to remember those opinions! They're just yours!

This is why I can't take you guys seriously. Memory of a goldfish.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Wasting your time mate, 45 people have said that they will never lose patience with Levy in the thread I started.
So basically he can do what the fuck he likes

Sorry Mullers, but asking people to set some sort of time limit after which they want the chairman to go was bizzare, and of course most of the people who support Levy will say "never", because saying "3 years" would be mental. You'd have been better setting behaviour limits before people will lose patience, e.g. sacking anouther x managers, or getting the squad to advertise indian chicken.

 

[dontcallme]

I remember when Levy first took over. He quickly fired the unpopular Graham for Hoddle. At the time Hoddle had a good managerial record and was idolised at the club but the same thing had happened for the previous 10 years happened again.

Levy then made wholesale changes and gutted the club out from bottom to top and started a revolution. We had a long-term and a short-term plan. We little spend we quickly became the 5th best club in the Prem.

I feel sorry and sometimes angry that in the next 10 years that Chelsea and Man City obtained billionaire owners as without it I'm sure Levy's long-term aim to get us into the CL would have come to fruition.

Until the last 3 seasons I've backed Levy all the way. I still think he has done amazing things for our club.

But his long-term thinking hasn't come to fruition and I'm not talking about simply not becoming a CL regular.

We've hired young and old coaches with a DOF, an experienced manager without one, an inexperienced manager without one then in his 2nd season getting the DOF he personally requested and still they got fired.

Much like Levy found Hoddle wasn't simply the cause of his time in charge being unsuccessful I refuse to accept that the way the club is run regarding football is being done right.

With Levy's plan we now have a squad which includes France's number one, Ajax's former captain, Ajax's creative spark last season, a £26m Argentine superstar who has performed wonders in 2 separate league, a Spanish striker who has outscored all bar Messi and Ronaldo in the last 4 seasons, 2 full Brazilian internationals in midfield and a squad full of other internationals.

You only have to watch us play to know something isn't right. We have talented players but no team togetherness.

Levy might have been the right person to get us out of the 90s rut but maybe we need someone with a clearer plan to run the footballing side of things is now needed.

I'll always respect Levy and appreciate what he has done but I'm not convinced he is the right person for us now.

 

[NEVILLEB]

I remember when Levy first took over. He quickly fired the unpopular Graham for Hoddle. At the time Hoddle had a good managerial record and was idolised at the club but the same thing had happened for the previous 10 years happened again.

Levy then made wholesale changes and gutted the club out from bottom to top and started a revolution. We had a long-term and a short-term plan. We little spend we quickly became the 5th best club in the Prem.

I feel sorry and sometimes angry that in the next 10 years that Chelsea and Man City obtained billionaire owners as without it I'm sure Levy's long-term aim to get us into the CL would have come to fruition.

Until the last 3 seasons I've backed Levy all the way. I still think he has done amazing things for our club.

But his long-term thinking hasn't come to fruition and I'm not talking about simply not becoming a CL regular.

We we've young and old coaches with a DOF, an experienced manager without one, an inexperienced manager without one then in his 2nd season getting the DOF he personally requested and still they got fired.

Much like Levy found Hoddle wasn't simply the cause of his time in charge being unsuccessful I refuse to accept that the way the club is run regarding football is being done right.

With Levy's plan we now have a squad which includes France's number one, Ajax's former captain, Ajax's creative spark last season, a £26m Argentine superstar who has performed wonders in 2 separate league, a Spanish striker who has outscored all bar Messi and Ronaldo in the last 4 seasons, 2 full Brazilian internationals in midfield and a squad full of other internationals.

You only have to watch us play to know something isn't right. We have talented players but no team togetherness.

Levy might have been the right person to get us out of the 90s rut but maybe we need someone with a clearer plan to run the footballing side of things is now needed.

I'll always respect Levy and appreciate what he has done but I'm not convinced he is the right person for us now.

Perfectly put.

 

[spurs9]

I remember when Levy first took over. He quickly fired the unpopular Graham for Hoddle. At the time Hoddle had a good managerial record and was idolised at the club but the same thing had happened for the previous 10 years happened again.

Levy then made wholesale changes and gutted the club out from bottom to top and started a revolution. We had a long-term and a short-term plan. We little spend we quickly became the 5th best club in the Prem.

I feel sorry and sometimes angry that in the next 10 years that Chelsea and Man City obtained billionaire owners as without it I'm sure Levy's long-term aim to get us into the CL would have come to fruition.

Until the last 3 seasons I've backed Levy all the way. I still think he has done amazing things for our club.

But his long-term thinking hasn't come to fruition and I'm not talking about simply not becoming a CL regular.

We've hired young and old coaches with a DOF, an experienced manager without one, an inexperienced manager without one then in his 2nd season getting the DOF he personally requested and still they got fired.

Much like Levy found Hoddle wasn't simply the cause of his time in charge being unsuccessful I refuse to accept that the way the club is run regarding football is being done right.

With Levy's plan we now have a squad which includes France's number one, Ajax's former captain, Ajax's creative spark last season, a £26m Argentine superstar who has performed wonders in 2 separate league, a Spanish striker who has outscored all bar Messi and Ronaldo in the last 4 seasons, 2 full Brazilian internationals in midfield and a squad full of other internationals.

You only have to watch us play to know something isn't right. We have talented players but no team togetherness.

Levy might have been the right person to get us out of the 90s rut but maybe we need someone with a clearer plan to run the footballing side of things is now needed.

I'll always respect Levy and appreciate what he has done but I'm not convinced he is the right person for us now.

Do you want to replace ENIC or just Levy? Who would you want to replace them/him?

 

[dontcallme]

Do you want to replace ENIC or just Levy? Who would you want to replace them/him?

I don't want rid of ENIC and I haven't said I want Levy out either. But I am not convinced he is the right man for us anymore. I hope my feeling is wrong.

I'm no expert on which financial people out there would run a football club well.

Everton have been a we-run club. They hired Moyes and stuck with him when he had some awful starts, Levy has never stuck by a manager going on a run of poor results. With a much lower budget than ourselves they have been more consistent than us and regularly finish in the top 7.

When Levy hired Arnesen and Jol a system was created where we played 433 at every level of our club. When Arnesen walked and Jol was sacked we hired people with a completely different vision and this long-term plan was ended before it had any chance to come to fruition.

Compare this to Swansea who hired Martinez then Paulo Sousa then Rodgers and Laudrup who all played a similar style of football and they created excellent continuity despite regular manager changes.

There are other ways to what Levy has done but don't take my questioning him to the extreme that I think he absolutely must walk.

 

[NEVILLEB]

You only have to look at what Brendan Rogers has done at Liverpool to see the value in backing a promising manager.

 

[spurs9]

I don't want rid of ENIC and I haven't said I want Levy out either. But I am not convinced he is the right man for us anymore. I hope my feeling is wrong.

I'm no expert on which financial people out there would run a football club well.

Everton have been a we-run club. They hired Moyes and stuck with him when he had some awful starts, Levy has never stuck by a manager going on a run of poor results. With a much lower budget than ourselves they have been more consistent than us and regularly finish in the top 7.

When Levy hired Arnesen and Jol a system was created where we played 433 at every level of our club. When Arnesen walked and Jol was sacked we hired people with a completely different vision and this long-term plan was ended before it had any chance to come to fruition.

Compare this to Swansea who hired Martinez then Paulo Sousa then Rodgers and Laudrup who all played a similar style of football and they created excellent continuity despite regular manager changes.

There are other ways to what Levy has done but don't take my questioning him to the extreme that I think he absolutely must walk.

To be fair, Jol was the only manager sacked due to football results (from Jol on wards), that you can really question. If Moyes had been bottom with Everton with only 2 points from 8 games, he would have been sacked. HR, it is believed, was sacked due to Publicly corting the England job straight after Levy stood by him in court. AVB, was sacked as he was causing friction behind the scenes.

In regards to playing 4-3-3 at every level, they still do at every level other than 1st team and Jol played 4-4-2, as did Ramos, HR played 4-4-2 until VDV signed it changed at the end of HR's reign and AVB played a similar formation, so you could argue that the managers have transitioned from 4-4-2 towards something what the rest of the youth teams play and hopefully the trend will continue with the next manager (who I hope is LVG).

The system that Arnesen helped initiate was always going to be long term and I think we will start to appreciate in the next year or two, which is why I am pro us getting LVG, as I believe he is the man to bridge the gap we have between 1st team & youth (with systems/formations etc as well as bringing through players to the 1st team) as well as turn our team of good player into great team as well as developing their character to a team of winners.

 

[Yiddosmithy]

I've been a big supporter of Levy for a long time but its hard not too get frustrated at the moment when the team is playing poorly, getting hammered by our rivals and not much if any progress on the stadium. He really needs to place a football man in charge of the football but if he doesn't trust him then it wont work, that's why i'm unsure on Baldini as i don't think Levy trusts him at all. I don't think anyone can argue that since he took over we have improved both on and off the field. I think all that needs to happen is him to pass out his football duties to someone he trusts (maybe even Sherwood) and let Levy focus on getting great financial deals for us.

 

[Eric_s]

Levy caused Redknapp to fuck up in his final season? Levy caused AVB to let a 10 point margin over Arsenal slip?

Did Levy cause you to mix up your facts?

 

[Eric_s]

His only fans are on this forum.

Everyone else can see the plainly obvious.

Many fans of other Bpl clubs I know wish their clubs are run by chairman like Daniel Levy.