Wayne Rooney

[Kingellesar]

Half our team can't even clear a first man on a cross. Let alone kick the ball 70 yards past a keeper into the back of the net.

I reckon Kane would be the only player who could pull it off in a game situation for us.

 

[hughy]

Half our team can't even clear a first man on a cross. Let alone kick the ball 70 yards past a keeper into the back of the net.

I reckon Kane would be the only player who could pull it off in a game situation for us.

Can't remember who it was against, but I vaguely remember Lucas coming close towards the back end of the season.

 

[Kingellesar]

Can't remember who it was against, but I vaguely remember Lucas coming close towards the back end of the season.

I sort of remember....but I have had a lot of dreams involving Lucas after the night in Ajax, I'm not sure what is real life and what is fantasy

 

[ohtottenham!]

Some professional footballers like Sissoko can't hit the target from 10 yards, so I have doubts that I or indeed "all of us" could consistently kick the ball into an open goal from the half way line!

Absolutely. Think if you've actually played the game, you understand how difficult that skill is. If you haven't, you dismiss it.

I remember training drills back in my day trying to hit the net in backward 5 yard increments with both a still and moving ball. The further back you got, the harder it was, particularly with a moving ball drill; and the wind, even a light one, carried the ball all over the issue.

With Rooney, sure there was an element of luck from 60-70 yards out, but a great degree of skill too.

 

[Timbo Tottenham]

Last night:

They did have Simon Amstel in goal though.

 

[RichieS]

It’s a skill to both recognize those rare circumstances and then have the technique to take advantage. He’s done it before at the top level, like Becks and Xabi Alonso.

It’s a technique that doesn’t rely heavily on athleticism, which is something he obviously doesn’t have now. He scored every kind of goal imaginable in his athletic prime. Good to see he can still score a spectacular goal, and help his team in the twilight of his career.

He was an incredible player. There was a match at WHL in which he absolutely dominated us that is among the best performances I've seen in the flesh - I think it was the game we lost after Defoe had scored an overhead kick inside the first minute.

 

[VegasII]

They did have Simon Amstel in goal though.

Pissed was he?

 

[ohtottenham!]

He was an incredible player. There was a match at WHL in which he absolutely dominated us that is among the best performances I've seen in the flesh - I think it was the game we lost after Defoe had scored an overhead kick inside the first minute.

He really was among the most complete players I've seen. He's had a physically, challenging career as he started out playing intensively from the age of 16 at Everton. Too much football, too many injuries all took their toll on his career.

As lethal as he was at his best, he still had to make way for Ronaldo at Man U as the pure striker in the team; no shame there as CR was and still is a phenomenon.

Rooney had the footballing intelligence to play so many roles for that team and Fergie really used that versatility to its fullest. The fella's still doing the business at this stage in obviously a lesser league. I enjoyed watching that long range goal he scored the other day. It's a skill he still has. He did the same in the PL in his younger days. Good luck to him.

 

[Shadydan]

It's rare because it requires a very rare set of circumstances, rather than because it's especially skillful

Player has ball on his own half and goalie way is off his line, that literally happens all the time when the ball is turned over by the offensive team.

It's more to do with the mentality, ability and the confidence of being able to pull that off.

 

[ohtottenham!]

Player has ball on his own half and goalie way is off his line, that literally happens all the time when the ball is turned over by the offensive team.

It's more to do with the mentality, ability and the confidence of being able to pull that off.

Mate, it was a silly post from @'O Zio in the first place dismissing what was involved with Rooney scoring that goal. Silly to use percentages like a 1% skill level for that goal scored by someone like Rooney. Silly to say all of us can kick a ball into an open net from the half way line. Silly on every level considering Rooney's history.

Don't get the point of using extremes to express a point of view when you're inevitably going to have to pull back from that extreme to protect your opinion. It's the Internet I guess.

 

[HobbitSpur]

Maybe I'm just a miserable git but I've never been particularly impressed with those kinds of goals. It's 80% a goalkeeping error 19% "balls" and 1% skill. By that I mean the actual skill involved is virtually nothing. All of us can kick the ball into an open goal from the half way line, it's really not difficult. The hard part is having the balls to try it in the middle of a game. However, it's almost entirely dependent on the keeper being stupidly far out and not paying attention.

The obvious comparison is Beckham's one but I think Beckham's was better because it took a lot more balls than Rooney's because at the time he was a kid breaking into the first team at the biggest club in the world, whereas Rooney is a well-established "big name" player playing in a tin-pot league for a bit of extra retirement money.

Don't need an excuse to post this. But since we are talking about goals from 79 yards, let's all sit back and enjoy this once more

 

['O Zio]

Mate, it was a silly post from @'O Zio in the first place dismissing what was involved with Rooney scoring that goal. Silly to use percentages like a 1% skill level for that goal scored by someone like Rooney. Silly to say all of us can kick a ball into an open net from the half way line. Silly on every level considering Rooney's history.

Don't get the point of using extremes to express a point of view when you're inevitably going to have to pull back from that extreme to protect your opinion. It's the Internet I guess.

What's silly is taking something that quite clearly wasn't meant to be taken literally and intentionally taking it literally just to be pedantic and make some snooty and completely irrelevant comment about the state of people on the internet

 

[ohtottenham!]

What's silly is taking something that quite clearly wasn't meant to be taken literally and intentionally taking it literally just to be pedantic and make some snooty and completely irrelevant comment about the state of people on the internet

I just thought there was way too much hyperbole used to minimize the Rooney goal. For example, after using the 1% skill line, you said, By that I mean the actual skill involved is virtually nothing.

There doesn’t seem to be much daylight between the two imo. In fact, it just reads as reinforcement. So, I may not take your percentage thing literally, but then do I also ignore your own clarification of what you meant?

I may come across as pedantic, but your post didn’t make much sense to me. Fair point re my Internet comment; I probably didn't need to throw that in.

 

[NinjaTuna]

Half our team can't even clear a first man on a cross. Let alone kick the ball 70 yards past a keeper into the back of the net.

I reckon Kane would be the only player who could pull it off in a game situation for us.

Kane almost scored one away to Dortmund, immediately after his goal to put us 1-0 up.

 

[ohtottenham!]

Half our team can't even clear a first man on a cross. Let alone kick the ball 70 yards past a keeper into the back of the net.

I reckon Kane would be the only player who could pull it off in a game situation for us.

Spot on, and agreed with your post at the time!

Kane's goal today reminded me of this thread re the Rooney goal. Great players can do this, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Kane does it again at some point, or if Rooney repeats his own feat at this late stage in his career. These opportunities are rare, but the talent required to take advantage of those situations is rarer still..

 

[ohtottenham!]

Maybe I'm just a miserable git but I've never been particularly impressed with those kinds of goals. It's 80% a goalkeeping error 19% "balls" and 1% skill. By that I mean the actual skill involved is virtually nothing. All of us can kick the ball into an open goal from the half way line, it's really not difficult. The hard part is having the balls to try it in the middle of a game. However, it's almost entirely dependent on the keeper being stupidly far out and not paying attention.

The obvious comparison is Beckham's one but I think Beckham's was better because it took a lot more balls than Rooney's because at the time he was a kid breaking into the first team at the biggest club in the world, whereas Rooney is a well-established "big name" player playing in a tin-pot league for a bit of extra retirement money.

Obvious revisit! Was going to happen sooner or later.

Don't think Kane's goal was merely a 1% skill, neither was it a virtually nothing skill. As for all of us having the ability to score from the halfway line,......

 

[tototoner]

 

[Danners9]

Straight red for this earlier

https://streamja.com/1ql3

Bit of a tussle. Not sure the clip as they all run into each other justifies the rolling around on the floor. Did the refs decide based on the reaction?

The other week he was subbed off and complained in the linesman's face 'every fking week!!' about being kicked all game with nothing being done. Maybe he's stopped giving a crap and doesn't care anymore.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Straight red for this earlier

https://streamja.com/1ql3

Bit of a tussle. Not sure the clip as they all run into each other justifies the rolling around on the floor. Did the refs decide based on the reaction?

The other week he was subbed off and complained in the linesman's face 'every fking week!!' about being kicked all game with nothing being done. Maybe he's stopped giving a crap and doesn't care anymore.

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VAR nailed it.

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These old players will have to change their ways.

 

[Danners9]

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VAR nailed it.

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These old players will have to change their ways.

Ah yes, the arm on the non-camera side. Straight into the jaw. The link I gave only showed it once, right at the very end.