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South Africa just grinding this out. Superb professionalism in the face of a fired up home team.
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E17yid
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I like Angus Gardner (whos made a few mistakes thisWC tbf) and that new young English ref, Luke Pearce I think his name is.
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Wales will really have to up their game to get close to South Africa based on today.
They do have three hours of extra rest though.
They do have three hours of extra rest though.
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Knowing the Japanese they will probably find 2 or 3 of them 35 years from now still playing this game
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You can see it above.
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We’ve got nothing to fear. Our recent record against SA is great so the players know they can beat them. We’ll also be written off by most which suits us.
It’s hard to get away from how poor we’ve been since the Australia game though (and even then the second half wasn’t great)
It’s hard to get away from how poor we’ve been since the Australia game though (and even then the second half wasn’t great)
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Think it will be very tight. My concern based on Wales today would be whether they can get through the South African defence considering they couldn't really get through France.
As they're saying on ITV though the contest at the breakdown will be fascinating
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Our defence has got a bit shit too which is a worry as normally it’s what we’re renowned for. But yeah, our attack isn’t looking great. We played some nice rugby in that first half against Australia but that’s about it.
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I’m done now anyway. Semi final was what I demanded and the lord has provided. Lose now we’ve had a decent WC. Would be nice to go that one step further, though
Goes without saying that if we had Faletau SA and NZ would get done.
If England beat NZ (which is certainly possible) I think I’d just rather lose the semi. Not going through an England Wales final.
Goes without saying that if we had Faletau SA and NZ would get done.
If England beat NZ (which is certainly possible) I think I’d just rather lose the semi. Not going through an England Wales final.
Need to improve defence and attack to progress next week for sure. Today Wales didn’t really create much at all. Two tries off of French mistakes basically.
I’m sure they’ll up their game but think Saffas will have too much for them. It’s not quite as big a gap as we see in yesterday’s game but again, like New Zealand v Ireland, this isn’t an end of season tour game or a friendly in the USA. When it comes to the biggest stage, Saffas have a tendency to produce. Hence why they’ve won it twice and it’s no coincidence they’ve come in to the tournament playing well.
I’m sure they’ll up their game but think Saffas will have too much for them. It’s not quite as big a gap as we see in yesterday’s game but again, like New Zealand v Ireland, this isn’t an end of season tour game or a friendly in the USA. When it comes to the biggest stage, Saffas have a tendency to produce. Hence why they’ve won it twice and it’s no coincidence they’ve come in to the tournament playing well.
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If J.Davies and Navidi are out I’d say our chances of winning go from 40% down to 25%
I think you are correct. That’s a fair assessment. Obviously depth is always an issue. I don’t rate Moriarty one bit at this sort of level and Davies level of player is hard to replace for almost any side.
I hope both are fit.
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I know what you mean re Moriarty. I know he’s traditionally an 8 (but I think we’ve discussed it before and we both see him as more of a 6) but he doesn’t do enough work over the ball. His main strength was he was a destructive ball carrier but he’s not been lately. Defensively he’s good, a beast at times, but, as we saw today, he’s always got a card in him.
With Faletau back he doesn’t come close to the starting lineup and with the emergence of Wainwright (MOTM today) who’s been a breath of fresh air, I doubt he’ll make the bench when everyone is fit.
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Boks looking pretty powerful and coped quite easily with a high pressure situation. Wales managed to scrape by a crazy French performance. What the fuck Vamaahina was thinking is totally beyond me. Does he think that will go unnoticed? Could have quite easily been 14 men each with Moriarty shown more leniency than some in the tournament. I think it will be NZ v Boks in the final and NZ to win it by at least 15.
I like Wainwright. Moriarty is not an 8 for me and yes we’ve discussed it before I think. His carrying has never been close to elite level. He’s not fit to even glance at Toby’s boots let alone try and lace them
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