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RichieS

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An incredibly informative thread - thanks to all who share their expertise!

In an attempt to get my head around what the club and/or ENIC are up to with all this property stuff, would you mind running your eye over this list of the involved sites and letting me know whether I've made any mistakes or missed anything out?
  • Everything in the "block" formed by High Rd., Park Lane, Worcester Ave. and Northumberland Park
  • Berland Court
  • Goods Yard
  • Cannon Rd.
  • 500 White Hart Lane
  • B&M
  • Site(s) west of High Rd. divested to TH Holding in order to reduce club borrowing
I can find no record online of when these sites were acquired. Does anyone know whether this was all the work of Paul Kemsley during the time he was at the club with the job of assembling the land necessary for the NDP?
 
davidmatzdorf

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Wine Gum said:
Section 106 Agreement for the B&M site

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I've had a skim through that, thanks. Fairgate is a SPV set up by THFC to acquire this site. Laxfield have a mortgage charge on the land. THFaAC Ltd will undertake the development.

There will be 330 housing units and various other uses.

It is a 35% affordable scheme, including 14% at three different levels of rented accommodation, from old-school social housing to affordable and "low cost" units and 21% as intermediate (probably shared ownership). 65% private.

All car-free housing except for 33 wheelchair-accessible parking spaces. A car club will be established and this usually comes with a year's free membership for residents as an incentive. Residents will be ineligible for local resident parking permits, as is customary.

There is a revaluation at completion and additional affordable housing will be required if the value of the private housing rises between now and then. The converse does not apply if values go down. An updated viability assessment must be submitted at completion to demonstrate how much affordable housing can be provided.

The council has an option to purchase the affordable housing. If they don't take up the option, the developer must sell it to a housing association. There is a formula for working out the discounted price.

Lots of the usual low-carbon and energy-conservation requirements.

A financial contribution to pay for improvements to the public realm, probably green open space.
 
Wine Gum

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Planning meeting last night.

Edit - The Application for 807 High Road was rejected - the other for the Terrace was approved.

Agenda for Planning Sub Committee on Monday, 12th October, 2020, 7.00 pm | Haringey Council
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www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk

Agenda Items

HGY/2020/1584 & 1586 - 798-808 HIGH ROAD, N17 0DH (PAGES 85 - 230)
Proposal – Planning Permission: Full planning application for the erection of a four storey building with flexible A1/A2/A3/B1/D1/D2 uses; external alterations to 798-808 High Road; change of use of 798-808 High Road to a flexible A1/A2/A3/B1/D1/D2 uses; demolition of rear extensions to Nos. 798, 800-802, 804-806, 808 and 814 High Road; erection of new rear extensions to Nos. 798, 800-802, 804-806 and 808 High Road; hard and soft landscaping works; and associated works.
Proposal – Listed Building Consent: Listed building consent for internal and external alterations to 798-808 High Road, including the demolition of rear extensions Nos. 798, 800-802, 804-806 and 808 High Road; erection of new rear extensions to Nos. 798, 800-802, 804-806 and 808 High Road; and associated works.
Recommendation: GRANT

9. HGY/2020/1361 - NOS. 807 HIGH ROAD, N17 8ER (PAGES 231 - 342)
Proposal - Full planning application for the demolition of existing buildings and the erection of a replacement building up to four storeys to include residential (C3); retail (A1); and flexible D1/B1 uses; hard and soft landscaping works including a residential podium; and associated works.
Recommendation: GRANT
 
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Wine Gum

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The reasons given in the Refusal Notice for the Planning Application covering 807 High Road.

The proposed development, by way of its access arrangements for future residents; in particular wheelchair users, and its refuse collection arrangements, would fail to provide a high quality, safe and accessible environment for future occupiers, nor provide for accessible and appropriate waste and recycling collection. This would result in an unacceptable quality of housing and an unacceptable detrimental effect on the amenities of the area and be contrary to policy SP2 of the Haringey Strategic Policies (March 2013) and policies DM1, DM2, DM4 and DM33 of the Haringey Development Management DPD (July 2017) and policy 7.2 of the London Plan (March 2016).
 
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The reasons given in the Refusal Notice for the Planning Application covering 807 High Road.

The proposed development, by way of its access arrangements for future residents; in particular wheelchair users, and its refuse collection arrangements, would fail to provide a high quality, safe and accessible environment for future occupiers, nor provide for accessible and appropriate waste and recycling collection. This would result in an unacceptable quality of housing and an unacceptable detrimental effect on the amenities of the area and be contrary to policy SP2 of the Haringey Strategic Policies (March 2013) and policies DM1, DM2, DM4 and DM33 of the Haringey Development Management DPD (July 2017) and policy 7.2 of the London Plan (March 2016).
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If that is the sole ground for refusal, it sounds like either an appeal next, or a redesign and resubmission. Unless the site has insurmountable access problems, it sounds like a delay, rather than the project being cancelled.
 
RichieS

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Great idea
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Difficult, obviously, but I'd also like us to promote Tottenham's other brewers as well. I have a feeling Redemption are local and there might be one or two others I've forgotten. Quite why you'd look at the Lea and think "that's good beer water" is beyond me, but there we go!
 
Wine Gum

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davidmatzdorf said:
I haven't the energy this evening to hunt this down on the website. What are we proposing to develop there?
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No details are provided about the scheme for the La Royale site. The Agenda pack for the Monday 8th Feb planning meeting just says pre-application discussions have taken place prior to a Planning Application being submitted. It looks to be tied in with revised proposals for the Goods Yard and B&M sites that already have planning consent and S106 Agreements in place.
 
Wine Gum

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For anyone interested this is the full list of properties owned by TH Properties Ltd based in the Bahamas.
 

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worcestersauce

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The La Royale Building is also listed so likely to be a refurb to bring back the frontage to something more in line with the original appearance.

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Thanks Wine Gum, I read through that it's surprising how old some of those buildings are but I guess we never look up, perhaps we should take Madness' advice
Look up at the rooftops
When you're walking 'round
Don't think for a moment
Of looking down

Nearly all of them ended "unsympathetic shop frontage" which I thinks means bleeding ugly.:)
 
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