Taking the knee/QPR

[Maxtremist]

Absolutely brilliant work by Les Ferdinand and QPR on this one.
I'm not gonna lie, seeing everyone taking a knee in such a formulaic manner has really been bugging me and annoying me and I think it doesn't really mean much anymore. It's just basically good PR rather than actual solidarity or making a change.

So hearing QPR didn't take the knee and then seeing their reasoning behind it... I'm totally here for it.

QPR FC | Official website of Queens Park Rangers for the latest news from Loftus Road

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[Gassin's finest]

I'll take on board anything that Sir Les has to say.

 

[Shadydan]

Great stuff that.

 

[Spurs2020]

just take the knee like everyone else stop trying to get press coverage by being different... irrelevent team

 

[JimmyG2]

So what actions are they taking?
Hope it's more than the Govt is doing for the Nurses,and Carers.
Like the clapping for the NHS its a gesture, an acknowledgment, a sign, a signal
of solidarity with a group that are being unfairly treated.
Its very public, simple and effective and is not a substitute for action
nor obviously intended to be.

 

[sausage]

One of the things that really annoys me in life is the self-promotion type people who 'talk' more than they 'do'. Clap for Carers is a very good example. I've unfortunately witnessed how some people tend to speak to nurses (esp. on wards) and no doubt a bunch of them would have been clapping instead of just, you know, not being twats.
I also hate the facebook 'like and share' crap that people post around that are usually hypocritical.

Spoiler: A boring anecdote

I fell out with a mate's friend a few years ago now because he was constantly posting stuff like 'awareness for x, y, z' where the variables were things like depression, PTSD - you know, mental illness type stuff that I happen to care about.
This one time I pointed out that instead of reposting one of those 'like and share if you are there for people on your friends list', why not just reach out to a couple now and then and just put aside 5 mins of your day to ask "Hi. How are you doing?". It wasn't aggressive or passive-aggressive, merely just a "if you mean it, why not try this more effective thing".

Anyway, they went mental on me, both he and his wife unfriended etc. Wasn't bothered because he was a bit of a twat anyway and you know Facebook - it's like a social contract to 'have' to be friends with certain people on there, but it was unsurprising that people don't like being challenged on their "virtue-signalling" - even subtly. I have countless similar experiences with people, and I would go as far as to say that people who advertise a quality are probably less likely to have it than those who don't.

'Taking a Knee' is the same for me - a lot of clubs and whatnot will be doing it and see that as 'their bit'. Nope, your bit goes much further than that, and the FA and a lot of clubs are having a laugh if they think that a slogan and a pre-match gesture means that they are doing half as much as they should be doing. The 'knee' during the national anthem thing makes sense for the USA, as it's directly correlated to what is felt as an issue, but everyone else doing it just takes away that meaning and in no time at all it becomes ambiguous as to what the meaning actually is.

 

[Maxtremist]

just take the knee like everyone else stop trying to get press coverage by being different... irrelevent team

Yeah... no. Just no.
It's not being different. It's recognising that just taking the knee is performative and really not addressing the issue at all. When they're all doing it just cause that's what everyone does then it's losing it's meaning and people are doing no more than taking the knee so it's not showing support to ending racism or Black people or any oppressed groups. It's just kneeling at that stage.

 

[Tucker]

We were talking about this at home on the weekend. The whole taking the knee thing has become a bit irrelevant now. It’s a good cause, and racism needs stamping out.

But when things like this become commonplace they lose their meaning. People are doing it because they think it’s the right thing to do and that’s fine, it’s coming from a good place.

It’s lost it’s impact now though and like the clap for carers it’s time to move on.

 

[Gassin's finest]

just take the knee like everyone else stop trying to get press coverage by being different... irrelevent team

Christ, there's always one...

 

[spursgirls]

I've been thinking the same lately, that it's time to stop doing this. I agree that it's like the clapping for the NHS and it has run its course. We all want an end to racism, but taking the knee has lost its impact IMHO.

@Maxtremist why not add a poll and see what people think?

 

[King of Otters]

The longer it continues, the more hollow it feels (to me anyway).

It’s all about the optics with football in this country.

 

[daveduvet]

Absolutely brilliant work by Les Ferdinand and QPR on this one.
I'm not gonna lie, seeing everyone taking a knee in such a formulaic manner has really been bugging me and annoying me and I think it doesn't really mean much anymore. It's just basically good PR rather than actual solidarity or making a change.

So hearing QPR didn't take the knee and then seeing their reasoning behind it... I'm totally here for it.

QPR FC | Official website of Queens Park Rangers for the latest news from Loftus Road

Official website of Queens Park Rangers for the latest news from Loftus Road

www.qpr.co.uk

That’s interesting. Seeing players ‘take the knee’ this weekend gone made me question whether it’s become clichéd... glad Les spoke out

 

[Dougal]

just take the knee like everyone else stop trying to get press coverage by being different... irrelevent team

I can’t believe I’m saying this but you’re giving ‘2020’ a bad name...

 

['O Zio]

Les is spot on there. Well said.

 

[Spurs2020]

Lol all the negative reactions cause i said take a knee like everyone else.. keep it coming boys smh snowflakes.

 

[Spurs2020]

Yeah... no. Just no.
It's not being different. It's recognising that just taking the knee is performative and really not addressing the issue at all. When they're all doing it just cause that's what everyone does then it's losing it's meaning and people are doing no more than taking the knee so it's not showing support to ending racism or Black people or any oppressed groups. It's just kneeling at that stage.

okay what are they doing instead then? nothing? lol.

 

[Shadydan]

okay what are they doing instead then? nothing? lol.

This is your first time on the internet isn't it.

 

[Gb160]

okay what are they doing instead then? nothing? lol.

Read the fucking statement.
There’s a good boy.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

 

[Spurs2020]

Read the fucking statement.
There’s a good boy.

reference me to a dog? classy man classy