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Spurs Youth - 2019/20

spurs9

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yankspurs

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Be interesting how much of an influence Mourinho has if any at all. Could be a difficult appointment. Most would think/accept that Mourinho is the polar opposite of everything we stand for in regards to youth policy. Yet they will have to appoint someone with a long term vision who will also get on with Mourinho. Also be interesting if we go British or foreign. I would guess it’s a hugely attractive job to many even quite high profile ex players.

chance they’d bring Sherwood back ?
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spursfan77

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You've pulled that straight out of your hole, I suspect.

Yep, utter fucking nonsense. I think him leaving had been on the cards for a while, he’d been linked to going back to work for the FA fairly recently. Hopefully we have something lined up. Let’s be fair, now is a good time to sort something like this out and get the club properly organised behind the scenes again. Although as Dean Rastrick is still there I doubt anything will happen in terms of improving recruitment but a new director of football may want to bring in his own people throughout the background staff. I think that is the way we will need to go now. Both levy and Mourinho are used to working that way.
 

Roy's Racers

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Great interview! Trust is the word all around!
Youngsters & their families trusting that clubs will give them full backing to have 1st team chances. Not just stockpiling to stop other clubs getting them on their books.
Managers, trusting young players to hit their potential over time and learn from inexperience.
Club owners trusting managers to build teams around homegrown players.
Fans tolerance to see a team building not just over the short-term. Without demanding money being splurged on record signings.
However, with the amount of money involved at the top end, that trust just isn't there.
 

coy-spurs1882

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When the only evidence of a player being good enough has been whether the manager uses them; I can understand to most this won't seem like much of a loss. I imagined that most people would think like this and it's impossible for me to reason you or anyone out of that position.

But for anyone who's watched the academy and knows about youth football in England they'll know this is a huge loss. My evidence is seeing the level of player he's produced consistently over the last 10 years, the emergence of England youth teams in general as a dominant force with a heavy contribution from our club, the emergence of top coaches from our club getting poached by big clubs and the FA especially and finally the FA getting their hands on the man that did it all. He will be a huge miss and has done so much, unfortunately not many people got to see his work or appreciate it. We became one of the top academies in the world under him and while in recent times we lost out on talent or talent left us, we remain one of the best in England still.

Hopefully someone will be able to step in and fill the void.
after the failures of pritchard, onomah, edwards, ccv and kwp I have more and more doubts about this though...
 

EQP

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after the failures of pritchard, onomah, edwards, ccv and kwp I have more and more doubts about this though...

And you place those "failures" squarely on McDermott? Not the managers who didn't give them opportunities to play?
 

Marty

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I'd hardly call them failures. They're all playing at Championship level or higher.
I remember a full decade where the best we could come up with was Phil Ifil and Jamie Slabber, unless I've forgotten all the decent homegrowns between King Ledley and the Mason/Townsend generation.

Failure can only be judged according to expectation. All the players who have left and play at an alright level have ensured that the academy is profitable, so they've been successful in that regard. We can't expect more than a handful of prospects reach Harry Kane levels but the academy we have gives us a better chance than most of producing those players.

The fact that the supposedly most talented prospects we've had since Winks' breakthrough haven't been given minutes and have left instead of breaking into the side is a multi-faceted can of worms I won't delve into.
 

coy-spurs1882

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And you place those "failures" squarely on McDermott? Not the managers who didn't give them opportunities to play?
i mean parents of the talented boys will have doubts regarding our academy system, mainly the path to first team football
 

coy-spurs1882

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I'd hardly call them failures. They're all playing at Championship level or higher.
usually i agree that it would be a success if an academy graduate plays at championship level. however i think those mentioned did not meet the expectation so i would consider them as failure
 

chinaman

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The money clubs have all gotten the best talents offering kids wages like 30,000 quids a week against what Levy offers the like of Parrott who was on something like 1,000 pounds before his recent new contract.
 

IGSpur

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after the failures of pritchard, onomah, edwards, ccv and kwp I have more and more doubts about this though...

But that's not McDermott's failing, hence why the FA have now hired him and why he is held in such high regard.

Surely those in the know, coaches, youth coaches and those high up in the FA would have been clearly monitoring his output. If none of those players were any good why go after him that's 10 years of his work. As I've said England have become the best youth production line in the world, and the FA would largely have been choosing players he has produced. Their success has come directly from his work. McDermott did the best he could for us and he did it very well, if very underappreciated and he's now moving on to bigger things
 

Locotoro

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But that's not McDermott's failing, hence why the FA have now hired him and why he is held in such high regard.

Surely those in the know, coaches, youth coaches and those high up in the FA would have been clearly monitoring his output. If none of those players were any good why go after him that's 10 years of his work. As I've said England have become the best youth production line in the world, and the FA would largely have been choosing players he has produced. Their success has come directly from his work. McDermott did the best he could for us and he did it very well, if very underappreciated and he's now moving on to bigger things
If you were levy what would you do with the youth structure now?
 

ardiles

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But that's not McDermott's failing, hence why the FA have now hired him and why he is held in such high regard.

Surely those in the know, coaches, youth coaches and those high up in the FA would have been clearly monitoring his output. If none of those players were any good why go after him that's 10 years of his work. As I've said England have become the best youth production line in the world, and the FA would largely have been choosing players he has produced. Their success has come directly from his work. McDermott did the best he could for us and he did it very well, if very underappreciated and he's now moving on to bigger things

I hope we inserted a buy back clause. :cautious:
 
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