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Match Threads Spurs vs RB Leipzig 1st leg - Match Thread

Match Prediction

  • Spur to win 1st leg - Clean Sheet

    Votes: 24 11.8%
  • Spurs to win 1st leg - No Clean Sheet

    Votes: 71 34.8%
  • RB Leipzig to win 1st leg

    Votes: 54 26.5%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 48 23.5%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 7 3.4%

  • Total voters
    204
  • Poll closed .

PeeLee

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Not only physically, buy mentally. Jose has a real tough job on his hands keeping the players believing. They’re not stupid and will know what a predicament we are in. Unless we can pull a decent result or two out without our two best attacking players then it will be hard to convince the squad we can achieve anything this season.

How do you know any of this? Players often are tired after a match, all the more when a change in personnel has only recently been forced on a team. Spurs know they are 0-1 behind yet there is a second leg in a few weeks' time. Last night's match is something that fans from a distance can discuss for days, weeks or months because they are free to, whereas that will be pushed to the back of player minds that must focus on the weekend' match against Chelsea.
 

dagraham

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How do you know any of this? Players often are tired after a match, all the more when a change in personnel has only recently been forced on a team. Spurs know they are 0-1 behind yet there is a second leg in a few weeks' time. Last night's match is something that fans from a distance can discuss for days, weeks or months because they are free to, whereas that will be pushed to the back of player minds that must focus on the weekend' match against Chelsea.

Don’t particularly disagree with that, but you’re arguing a different point than I was making.

I wasn’t necessarily talking about belief to overturn the tie, just belief in general that we can win many difficult matches with no strikers.

In response to you, of course I don’t know anything for sure, just my feeling. As I said, players aren’t daft, they know their limitations.
 

PeeLee

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Would still love him to a Spurs. Quick and powerful, still young.

But very annoyed with his celebration of cupping his hand to his ear. I thought only scum players did that ffs. Not as if we are a direct rival of RB. That look instantly transformed my image of him fittingly into a Liverpool/chelscum/scum player..
It's the ones who suck their thumb after scoring a goal who look like twits. It's such a naff gesture.
 

PeeLee

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During the game, I could not figure out why RBL players were so much fitter than Spurs.

Then I recalled something. From 21 December till 19 February they only played 6 games and had a clear break till 18 January.

Spurs played 13 games in two months and only had 5 days rest last week. No wonder they were first to every ball.
A material factor when comparing the two teams last night. Thanks for the information.
 

PeeLee

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This is what I expected from the Dortmund game last year, remember everyone hyping them up and we absolutely demolished them.

Same again this year, a lot of hype around Leipzig....and deservedly so, Werner is a huge player, I would love him at Spurs. If it wasn't for Lloris it would have been 3/4 and game over. At least we still got a chance in the away leg but they have lived up to the hype surrounding them.

Thought Lo Celso grew as a player last night, taking charge of the midfield in the second half, I think with a run of games now he will soon become one of the first names on the team sheet. Also Lamela is so frustrating because there is a good player in there and we needed someone to come on and rough them up as they kept making cynical fouls but you know he will have reported in injured this morning.
Last night Lamela and Ndombele coming on as substitutes helped give the side a second half-lift and the means to exert more pressure up front. The two players they replaced — a team stalwart and the other a new boy —had each put in a good game and may well feature in Saturday's game against Chelsea. As for Lamela he is so often busy and competitive, prepared to run with determination and really struggle for the ball, in a ways that seem to inspire teammates. And yet again Ndombele showed just how good he can be; it's going to be wonderful seeing him settle into matches and play so speedily and with such lovely passing.
 

PeeLee

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Im not, there was a guy behind me (a season ticket holder) who moaned the whole game from the first minute (it was worse than a match thread), so I suspect there were more like him happy to leave early. He didn’t give up though. I wish he’d of fucked off at half time!
Whining tests the patience of other people within earshot of it. Nobody misses a whiner. It's a relief not to be with one.
 

peteblue

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We have got to play Lamela and Ndombele from the start against Chelski, they made a difference when they came on in the second half. Drop Alli and give him a rest maybe also Winks or Gedson, Please under any circumstances do not play Dier, he is slower than a tortoise.
 

PeeLee

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We have got to play Lamela and Ndombele from the start against Chelski, they made a difference when they came on in the second half. Drop Alli and give him a rest maybe also Winks or Gedson, Please under any circumstances do not play Dier, he is slower than a tortoise.
Winks, Gedson and Dele battled away last night, in difficult circumstances. (Dele has scored some fine goals against Chelsea.) I'd expect to see them play on Saturday, and if not start with Lamela and Ndombele then definitely have them come on early in the second half. Davies might well get a start, perhaps Sessegnon also, with the prospect of Tanganga's involvement. He is young, he is inexperienced, yet I suspect that Troy Parrott will get to play in some forthcoming games.
 

SugarRay

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Really don’t get the ‘Nagelsmann is a genius’ ‘Leipzig are breath of fresh air’ bollocks.

Southampton impressed me more only the other week. Sheffield United were also a better side when they came to ours.

Full strength, everyone fit and firing, we take a healthy lead in to the second leg. Alas, that never seems to happen with us anymore.

I do think it’ll be quite sometime until we hear the champions league theme played at home unfortunately.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Take the day off chap, you just don't like the fact you've mugged yourself off and doubled down on it is all.
Again just can't let anyone else's opinion have any significance :sleep: :whistle:
Anyone who says 'mugged yourself off' has some insecurity issues.
I'm not a fan of Dele and you clearly are that's fine I can accept that but have a think about toning it down a bit.
 
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Again just can't let anyone else's opinion have any significance :sleep: :whistle:
Anyone who says 'mugged yourself off' has some insecurity issues.
I'm not a fan of Dele and you clearly are that's fine I can accept that but have a think about toning it down a bit.
What are you on about? You were backing up someone elses claim now you're talking about Dele? You have a fucking hardon for me, maybe go knock one out and feel better?

Seriously.
 

jurgen11

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Was very surprised at the amount of fans leaving on the 80 minute mark last night. It was a 1-0 game and we were playing well at that point. By 88 mins our block was about half full. One couple in front of me left on 60 mins!

I sat next to a couple of season ticket holders who go to every game from Wiltshire, they stayed until the end -
 

stov

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Look at our recent history in regards to picking up trophies and it all becomes clear.
But maybe a lot of spurs fans put style and swagger above the win at all costs pragmatist approach.

For me and others ( I hope) this mentality is not a problem. I'd rather have the ginola and klinsmann memories than win the trophies arsenal won under Graham.

Obviously I'd like both, but if it were a choice is choose entertainment over trophies. I'm dogmatic on the subject.
 

stov

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Also the sky agenda you're only a great team or manager if you win stuff is a pile of poop.
 

Shadydan

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But maybe a lot of spurs fans put style and swagger above the win at all costs pragmatist approach.

For me and others ( I hope) this mentality is not a problem. I'd rather have the ginola and klinsmann memories than win the trophies arsenal won under Graham.

Obviously I'd like both, but if it were a choice is choose entertainment over trophies. I'm dogmatic on the subject.

Each to their own, I personally would like some trophies as a fan, all well and good playing great footy but if you have nothing to show for it then what's the point? Give me 3 years of this footy in an exchange for some pots and then we can re-asses.
 

Spurs 1961

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Don’t particularly disagree with that, but you’re arguing a different point than I was making.

I wasn’t necessarily talking about belief to overturn the tie, just belief in general that we can win many difficult matches with no strikers.

In response to you, of course I don’t know anything for sure, just my feeling. As I said, players aren’t daft, they know their limitations.

I think Jose is the one who does not believe. If he put some faith in the players maybe we could actually be allowed to have some possession but like Chelsea and ManU under JM in recent years we have become a park the bus side ... a sort of upmarket Stoke
 

stov

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Each to their own, I personally would like some trophies as a fan, all well and good playing great footy but if you have nothing to show for it then what's the point? Give me 3 years of this footy in an exchange for some pots and then we can re-asses.
The problem is I don't see how the mourinho approach is going to win is trophies. Then what are left with a succession of ruined weekends and nothing to show for it, not even memories of great attacking performances or a ridiculous piece of skill. I remember the fa cup win but I look back more fondly on the screamer gazza scored in the semi final more.
 

Shadydan

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The problem is I don't see how the mourinho approach is going to win is trophies. Then what are left with a succession of ruined weekends and nothing to show for it, not even memories of great attacking performances or a ridiculous piece of skill. I remember the fa cup win but I look back more fondly on the screamer gazza scored in the semi final more.

This exact approach has won him 27 (twenty seven) trophies, how can you even question that?

You may not see it yet which is fine and okay to be skeptical but I'm here for the long run, maybe you ought to be as well?
 
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