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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

Metalhead

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Don't understand why Spurs and WH are getting the flak here.

I actually think the Liverpool fans are the most disgraceful for being against a null and void league if it can't be finished. Might be 99.999% there but they haven't won it yet and would be happy to fuck over Aston Villa and Norwich so they can claim to have won something that they haven't yet mathematically achieved.
Neve thought about it like that. Good point.
 

WiganSpur

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From the sounds of Paul Barber it’s very unlikely to drag past June 30th otherwise starts to complicate contracts and transfers. Which means in reality early May is probably the cut off.
It's surely going to be trying to finish it until then and then null and void it.

Personally I don't see a big issue with the contracts and I think they can easily try to wait until the end of August to finish it. Most players would renegotiate short term deals and if they won't then clubs will just have to suck it up and do without I guess or offer 1 year deals.

Realistically imo they should give it until mid to late August before it really starts affecting the next 2 campaigns and will have to be declared void. The fairest next step would be to cancel Europe so nobody has a financial advantage but I doubt UEFA would want that as it's a money spinner.
 

freeeki

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In reality nobody could begrudge Liverpool being given the title if the season were to end now, and it would be quietly amusing to see them miss out on a record-breaking points haul which they're very much on course for.

The bigger problem would be what happens at the lower end of the table - it seems unfair to relegate teams who've strengthened in January and are putting up a good fight to stay in the league. However at the same time, it'd be unfair to give Liverpool the title if you're not promoting the top 3 championship teams.

What could work - have a relegation moratorium for one season. So, top 3 teams from the Championship get promoted, with no PL relegations. Next season, the PL plays with 23 teams, with the bottom 6 being relegated at the end of 2020/21.

Repeat as necessary for each league below.

I’ve seen today mumblings in the press that we could be headed for a 22-team EPL next season - which makes me think they’re considering something like I suggested here.

Presumably foregoing the playoffs and just bumping up those in auto-promotion spots currently.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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The financial impact of all this is going to be extremely interesting, even wealthy clubs can't go on paying massive wages to some of these players as TV revenues etc will all be reduced , players taking pay cuts that will be fun.

We can start by cutting the wages of all three senior goalkeepers for underperforming :)
 

Trix

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I’ve seen today mumblings in the press that we could be headed for a 22-team EPL next season - which makes me think they’re considering something like I suggested here.

Presumably foregoing the playoffs and just bumping up those in auto-promotion spots currently.
Journalists just guessing mate. Not even those at the top know what's going to happen yet. Lawyers earning there money trying to work out all the legalities regarding clubs, players contracts, TV companies etc. Meetings planned for Thursday this week but they are aware that whatever they decide will probably legally chalenged.

My guess would be the season being voided.
 

teok

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The financial impact of all this is going to be extremely interesting, even wealthy clubs can't go on paying massive wages to some of these players as TV revenues etc will all be reduced , players taking pay cuts that will be fun.

We can start by cutting the wages of all three senior goalkeepers for underperforming :)

They were speculating that some of the championship clubs may have to sell their young stars at cut prices just to keep the lights on. The example given was jude bellingham at birmingham
 

SirHarryHotspur

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They were speculating that some of the championship clubs may have to sell their young stars at cut prices just to keep the lights on. The example given was jude bellingham at birmingham

He has already been on a tour of Man Utd training ground so I think we can guess where he is going.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Journalists just guessing mate. Not even those at the top know what's going to happen yet. Lawyers earning there money trying to work out all the legalities regarding clubs, players contracts, TV companies etc. Meetings planned for Thursday this week but they are aware that whatever they decide will probably legally chalenged.

My guess would be the season being voided.
Whatever is decided, it's going to create a lot of money for lawyers.
 

blodge99

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Realistically, I dont think we'll in any position to be restarting the season anytime soon (maybe May/June at earliest).
As others have said, theres the possibility of law suits whatever this decided - you'll never make everyone happy.
I can see them cancelling this season, and awarding the league to Liverpool )rumours that this had the required 14 votes at yesterday's meeting), but the big issue would be who would qualify for next years European comps.....so why not use the UEFA co-efficient to determine who goes into what comps.
Taking City out (assuming the ban is upheld) this would leave:
CL - Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Spurs
EL - Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves
I know this may be unfair on the likes of Sheffield Utd/Burnley/Palace/Everton who are all chasing spots, but I think it's a logical solution (but with the vast £££ on offer, logic may go out the window).

Just my tuppence worth (yes, I'm bored and on the comedown after a few days at Cheltenham)
 

joelstinton14

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Don't understand why Spurs and WH are getting the flak here.

I actually think the Liverpool fans are the most disgraceful for being against a null and void league if it can't be finished. Might be 99.999% there but they haven't won it yet and would be happy to fuck over Aston Villa and Norwich so they can claim to have won something that they haven't yet mathematically achieved.

Has there been any actual sources/indication on Levy wanting the season void or is it just Internet Hearsay now taken for truth?
 

WiganSpur

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I’ve seen today mumblings in the press that we could be headed for a 22-team EPL next season - which makes me think they’re considering something like I suggested here.

Presumably foregoing the playoffs and just bumping up those in auto-promotion spots currently.
That's just madness. Any outcome that assumes final places are as they are now is crazy. Leeds and WBA in no way have guaranteed promotion, much like Liverpool haven't yet won the league.

There is no better solution i've seen than the following:

- Null and void leagues across Europe
- Any teams already mathematically promoted go up adding to the number of teams in the higher division. Add another relegation spot for subsequent division for the following season. (For example if Leeds were already up, then they go into a 21 team PL and 4 teams go down in 20/21).


- Rinse and repeat for already relegated teams. League below has a new team with one more promotion spot.
- European competitions for 20/21 are cancelled because the teams qualified cannot be determined. Any teams already qualified (Liverpool) automatically get compensated financially and a spot for when it resumes the season after. PL top 3 then gets CL and of course if Liverpool are in that then 4th gets it too.
 
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blodge99

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Has there been any actual sources/indication on Levy wanting the season void or is it just Internet Hearsay now taken for truth?

Michael Bridge (Sky Sports journo who supports Spurs), said that Spurs are not one of the clubs who want it cancelled
 

rossdapep

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Michael Bridge (Sky Sports journo who supports Spurs), said that Spurs are not one of the clubs who want it cancelled
This is absolutely the right stance to take at this point. Stating we want it cancelling would highlight the club's belief that we have given up on CL qualification, therefore if a vote came later down the road on who gets CL spots we would be in a weaker position with our argument.

Basically we need to push the agenda that we want the season to continue as we are still fighting for CL qualification and just giving it to the teams in 4th/5th is incorrect/illegal
 

Thewobbler

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ClintEastwould

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Jesus some of you lot are like teenage girls hoping for One Direction to get back together.

You’re really weird with your complete lack of any empathy regarding Poch or those who still are fond of him. Football ain’t all about score lines bud.
 

SpartanSpur

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The teams may well be West Ham and Chelsea.

Chelsea stand to get CL by both cancellation methods. Current position and last year qualification. If it plays on they could still miss out.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Has there been any actual sources/indication on Levy wanting the season void or is it just Internet Hearsay now taken for truth?
Well, what I've seen is one report of West Ham and Tottenham advocating in the EPL meeting to scrap the season. Then later West Ham actually made public statements in support of this. I don't know what that proves, but food for thought. Don't we think Levy would love scrapping this season?
 

thebenjamin

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I wonder what the criteria are to restart the season - would it have to be the virus has been completely defeated? That could be a long time. But then I can't see them coming back when it's still out there - one new infection at a club and its all back off again.
 

tototoner

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Don't understand why Spurs and WH are getting the flak here.

I actually think the Liverpool fans are the most disgraceful for being against a null and void league if it can't be finished. Might be 99.999% there but they haven't won it yet and would be happy to fuck over Aston Villa and Norwich so they can claim to have won something that they haven't yet mathematically achieved.
Why would Spurs be getting fack?
 

WiganSpur

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Why would Spurs be getting fack?
Because it'd had been thought that we wanted a null and void league so we can retain our CL status. Turns out it's not true anyway now.

But point is regardless of who stands to benefit, imo null and void league is the only option with cancelling Europe and basing promotion and relegation off only those who have guaranteed it already.
 
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