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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

BENNO

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Tanguy different player this season, can see it even in the small amount of time he's played. With every pass today, he was on the move almost as he was playing it. Also noticeable that when tackled/fouled or the occasion when he was dumped on the ground, there was no thought of staying down,feigning injury, just got up and carried on. So pleased to see. Hats off to you Tanguy, I didn't think you'd turn your Spurs career around but fully expect it now.
 

St José Dominguez

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I think it's possible that we play Lo Celso to the 'Winks' role with him and Ndombele dovetailing in front of Hojbjerg. Lo Celso as the more metronomic passer, dropping deep and showing for the ball, with Ndombele trying to find holes and linking with the front 3 while also doing his share of covering in the middle.

That said, I can also imagine Jose doing exactly what you described, and I think we could seriously use another quality, combative option to rotate with Hojbjerg and Winks if we're going to play 4-3-3 every week (the dream option being Sabitzer). At the moment we're only an injury away from Sissoko being in there again and then we're back to square 1.

It may be we use different options depending on the opponent too. We talk about squad options etc, Lo Celso and Ndombele competing for one spot is very strong.

To be honest I quite like the idea of two combative hard working CMs who allow Lo Celso or Ndombele to be in space to feed our front 3. We’re going to be playing counter attacking football and I think that having that defensive base could be effective and really exciting when we win the ball back and attack.
 

Timberwolf

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It may be we use different options depending on the opponent too. We talk about squad options etc, Lo Celso and Ndombele competing for one spot is very strong.

To be honest I quite like the idea of two combative hard working CMs who allow Lo Celso or Ndombele to be in space to feed our front 3. We’re going to be playing counter attacking football and I think that having that defensive base could be effective and really exciting when we win the ball back and attack.
Yeah, if we're committing to a midfield 3, having another top quality all rounder or a true DM in there could be a game changer. Hojbjerg is functional and Winks should be a backup/squad player at best if we really expect to win anything. Playing the 2 of them together will lead to a lot of performances like the first half today. Still better than the Winks/Sissoko pairing but not top 4 quality and barely top 10.
 

ssamme

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But was he at fault for the first Southampton goal, if you watch it back he did not really press KWP and therefore allowed him time to pick the pass.

Might reflect Jose’s point about not all about his involvement in the goal.

Tanguy is amazing creativity but needs to press more, Gio would have been in KWP’s face
 

bbunc

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CDM is what unlocks everything. In a perfect world I’d plonk the Dele money on Zakaria. Job done.

If we need to to go budget, 10M to grab Ronaldo Vieira would be a great shout. Young, homegrown.

Then big bucks still at striker/CB
 

THFCSPURS19

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But was he at fault for the first Southampton goal, if you watch it back he did not really press KWP and therefore allowed him time to pick the pass.

Might reflect Jose’s point about not all about his involvement in the goal.

Tanguy is amazing creativity but needs to press more, Gio would have been in KWP’s face
Allowing Ings to get in behind from a long ball, in an exact repeat of the goal we conceded last season, is not Ndombele’s fault.
 

Timberwolf

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Allowing Ings to get in behind from a long ball, in an exact repeat of the goal we conceded last season, is not Ndombele’s fault.
I thought that goal was a mixture of Dier not reading the flight of the ball well and an exceptional finish from Ings (with maybe some blame on Lloris for getting his angles a bit wrong). Can't pin that one on Ndombele IMO.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I though the goal was a superb pass from KWP and great movement and finish from Ings.

Yes, Dier and Lloris could’ve both feasibly done better on it, but neither had a shocker on it imo
 

King of Otters

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Good management this

Mourinho on his Ndombele substitution
No, he was not injured, but we all know that his condition is not yet top condition and that is why we are playing him basically coming from the bench.
Gio Lo Celso was very, very tired and he clearly wouldn't be able to play 90 minutes. We decided to play Tanguy but we had planned that Gio would come into the game in the second half.
The yellow card left Tanguy in a difficult position in the same way Romeu was in a difficult position and could possibly get a second yellow card during the second half. I didn't want that to happen to Tanguy in a game against Southampton, which is always fair and honest but an aggressive game in lots of ways. I was just afraid and Gio is in this moment still has a little bit more sharpness than Tanguy and second half was fantastic for us.

He also said, when asked about his pre-assist, something to the effect of, ‘the game is about more than one moment’.

I’m not convinced that Mourinho will have been as impressed by that 45 as everyone on here was tbh.
 

ssamme

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He also said, when asked about his pre-assist, something to the effect of, ‘the game is about more than one moment’.

I’m not convinced that Mourinho will have been as impressed by that 45 as everyone on here was tbh.

Hence my point about the goal, watch it back, that is one of the things José looks for
 

cliff jones

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Sanchez was the biggest culprit on the goal, for not spotting the danger and getting round to block.

TN was blowing again but at least was lively, and what he did for the equaliser is what I pay money to watch.
 

punkisback

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He also said, when asked about his pre-assist, something to the effect of, ‘the game is about more than one moment’.

I’m not convinced that Mourinho will have been as impressed by that 45 as everyone on here was tbh.
Agree, it was poor but he made up for it with his performance and battle towards the end of the half. But I feel that Jose in his mind will use it as a stick to beat him with as he isn't one of his favourites. if it was say winks or Sissoko doing that he would be a lot more forgiving and they have done that several times over his tenure with us.
 

ralphs bald spot

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Sorry but he is so poor without the ball again - on it yes he can play but he creates almost as many problems for us as he does for the opposition

Maybe he can play as a spare player in a 3-4-1-2 but he needs to improve his output
 

EQP

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Definitely improving. Only positive of this hectic schedule is players will get minutes to build up their fitness and sharpness. I would give Tanguy 60-70 minutes in the Carabao cup in a 433 to dictate play with Gedson and Sissoko besides him in helping with the running and pressing.

Hart
Aurier ----Toby ----- Foyth ---Reguilon
Gedson ---Ndombele----- Sissoko
Lamela ----------- Sessegnon
Dele​
 

DiVaio

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But was he at fault for the first Southampton goal, if you watch it back he did not really press KWP and therefore allowed him time to pick the pass.

Might reflect Jose’s point about not all about his involvement in the goal.

Tanguy is amazing creativity but needs to press more, Gio would have been in KWP’s face
Amazing agenda against Tanguy when you can read he is to blame for Watford goals, for Plovdiv goals and Ings goal today...
 

HedgieSpur

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Sorry but he is so poor without the ball again - on it yes he can play but he creates almost as many problems for us as he does for the opposition

Maybe he can play as a spare player in a 3-4-1-2 but he needs to improve his output

So you ignore that he got stuck in (yellow card), was the best passer through the lines, showed outrageous skill, tenacity and then awareness to set up the chance for the goal?

This is why we can’t have nice things....
 

synththfc

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People just looking for a reason to crucify him. I'm not a fan of the effort I saw last season, but in that video, he's one of the only people actually making an effort to get back. One of the last people I'd blame for that goal.

Just about rinse and repeat.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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He was on a yellow and we didn’t want to risk him getting a second plus the plan was always to bring Lo Celso on anyway. I really don’t think there was much more to it then that.
 
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