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It’s beyond me why anyone would want to go to a Russian club. Let alone one with BAME origins. Just setting yourself up to deal with racism continuously.Can't see him wanting to go to Spartak fucking Moscow
It’s beyond me why anyone would want to go to a Russian club. Let alone one with BAME origins. Just setting yourself up to deal with racism continuously.Can't see him wanting to go to Spartak fucking Moscow
The worst thing about a back 5 is that it leaves you horrendously exposed out wide as you don’t have a wide forward/winger covering and also you don’t have a DM who can provide cover eitherMadness to go back to a midfield 2 or drop one of Son Bale or Kane. Hate back 5 setups personally.
He isn’t robust though; he is rash and a liability. He isn’t decent on the ball though; he picks it up in space but is really wasteful and can’t cross.
Giving him a new contract would be setting ourselves up for further difficulty moving deadwood on. He is a good lad, worked hard and played through personal tragedy. Fair fucks for that. However he needs to move on for both his own good and ours
No, the cup tie rule was abolishedDid anyone else note that Aurier wasn't on the bench for our Europa game last week? Were we avoiding him being cup-tied? ?
I think they're both very different RBs in player profile that oddly have similar deficiencies, though they manifest in different ways.I still think he is a better RB than Doherty. But the majority of supporters will always buy into the idea that because a player is new, he is automatically better. This is not always the case and in my opinion, this is one of them.
Good post!I think they're both very different RBs in player profile that oddly have similar deficiencies, though they manifest in different ways.
Doherty, while I'm not going to write him off too soon, has played in the PL for a while now and it's fair to say he's not going to become much better at 1:1 defending than he is. His pace and quickness just leave so much to be desired, you saw it with Richarlison and Djenepo, both made him look amateur with their pace and trickery in 1:1 defending. He's a RWB not accustomed to this, yes, but he dives in too early and does not have great timing on his tackles, Additionally, one-twos and combinations make him look really lost due to his ploddiness (imagine him vs. a Mane-Firmino linkup) and I get heart attacks seeing him defending in and around the box with no cover.
Aurier gives the same heart attacks, but it's not due to pace or quickness, it's due to a rashness of diving in and really poor clearance instincts. He also consistently struggles to track more than one runner at once: this is a big flaw of Aurier's I've never really seen discussed here but if you watch enough it's a defining trait. He is actually pretty adept at following a winger's run infield or even sprinting back to catch a striker, and he makes some really impressive plays in this instance. It's the 2v1 situations that separate top defenders from average and he is often a step slow when making that decision. It's something that a defender in all top level sports -football, basketball, even American football and rugby sees dozens of times a game, that split second decision of which player deserves more attention and it's something Aurier never really mastered. So, I do get the concern with him defensively but he has that recovery pace and a fearlessness that has brought him to the top that Doherty just inherently lacks.
Going forward, again they both love gallivanting up the right flank and are prone to being caught out tracking back, but this is again done much differently. Doherty fancies himself almost an inverted winger and seems to want to head every cross from the left wing. He assisted Kane's first goal on Sunday (disallowed) doing this, and loves cutting in to join the build up - however he finds himself in the box quite often and jogs back. Aurier, also finding himself high up the pitch, is more reminiscent of Moyes era Ashley Young just becoming a cross bot (mostly because teams give him the space out wide) and he also fancies himself a winger. It's very contrasting styles that interestingly come with similar limitations.
But overall I do agree: I think Aurier's sheer pace and experience in our system actually will prove to be more effective because wingers can't guarantee to just outpace him every time. as more film develops on our side, I think isolating Doherty with one-twos will become commonplace and you just cannot teach pace. Especially with a budding star it seems in Reguilon on the left, opponents will target our right flank all match long: and I think the physically gifted player most likely wins out in that situation.
Aurier's sheer pace? He's definitely quicker than Doherty but he's no Walker. Aurier has been rinsed loads of times by a quick winger.But overall I do agree: I think Aurier's sheer pace and experience in our system actually will prove to be more effective because wingers can't guarantee to just outpace him every time. as more film develops on our side, I think isolating Doherty with one-twos will become commonplace and you just cannot teach pace. Especially with a budding star it seems in Reguilon on the left, opponents will target our right flank all match long: and I think the physically gifted player most likely wins out in that situation.
There’s always going to be someone quickerAurier's sheer pace? He's definitely quicker than Doherty but he's no Walker. Aurier has been rinsed loads of times by a quick winger.
Sell him and bring in Max Aarons.
Madness to go back to a midfield 2 or drop one of Son Bale or Kane. Hate back 5 setups personally.
Aurier is mabye a little stronger and more tenacious and has a good jump on him but Doherty is better in the final 3rd and is more solid defensively. Both good options, Aurier has massively cut out his big errors since Jose came in.I still think he is a better RB than Doherty. But the majority of supporters will always buy into the idea that because a player is new, he is automatically better. This is not always the case and in my opinion, this is one of them.
It's mad how many times people get Aurier's strengths and weaknesses so very wrong. I always see that he's a poor crosser and that just isn't true imo.Aurier's sheer pace? He's definitely quicker than Doherty but he's no Walker. Aurier has been rinsed loads of times by a quick winger.
The thing is, Tanganga has played about two games at RB. Although he was decent the jury is still very much out. I think we need to play him there in more lower key games before we can be sure he's proper injury cover.I'd sell Aurier and trust Tanganga with the back up role if it meant room for another quality non HG signing like Dias or Edouard. I think he'd be a good foil for Reguilon's attacking flair down the left. Doherty is a greater threat going forward than Aurier but still not great defensively and there'll be times when we get pinned back and need that.