Harry Kane

[dagraham]

The Dele one was far more straightforward, gilt edged goal.

The Lamela one I'm not even sure was on. Probably was but far from straightforward given the tightness of of other players around.

I know what you mean, but you could also argue Dele had a much better chance of scoring himself from his position than Lamela did.

At the end of the day they both should have squared it across goal. We as a team generally make too many poor decisions when in the attacking third for me.

 

[dagraham]

The thing with Harry he does not fit the profile of what a lot of people see is needed to be a top player he is not fast he is not super skilful
He does have the ability to put the ball in the net at a decent ratio to chances created .
He is brilliant in the air .
His passing range is fantastic and has and will set up many chances for others.
He also works hard to help out in defence.
For me he is the best kind of (team first) player and I would not swap him for any other striker.

I wouldn’t either, but most of us in here are not talking about how good a striker Kane is. We’re making the observation that he’s clearly changed his game for some reason.

Whether that’s a tactical instruction from the manager, or Kane himself dropping way too deep because he thinks he needs to make up for a lack of creativity and service from the rest of the team. Or, more worryingly, because his body can’t handle playing in the way he used to.

 

[SugarRay]

The thing with Harry he does not fit the profile of what a lot of people see is needed to be a top player he is not fast he is not super skilful
He does have the ability to put the ball in the net at a decent ratio to chances created .
He is brilliant in the air .
His passing range is fantastic and has and will set up many chances for others.
He also works hard to help out in defence.
For me he is the best kind of (team first) player and I would not swap him for any other striker.

Basically he’s not what all the divs think makes a world class player...which is someone who has a sick profile on FIFA. Anyone who knows anything about football knows just how great Harry Kane is.

The YouTube freestyler generation don’t have a clue

 

[SugarRay]

I know what you mean, but you could also argue Dele had a much better chance of scoring himself from his position than Lamela did.

At the end of the day they both should have squared it across goal. We as a team generally make too many poor decisions when in the attacking third for me.

Big time. Dele nearly always fluffs his lines and either slows play down, fails to deliver the right pass or shoots tamely and Lamela has no composure whatsoever. Chuck in Kane’s excellent positioning being even more wasted for England with Sancho, Sterling and Rashford deciding to shoot from impossible angles and not having any idea Kane is in space, it’s easy to see why some think he’s having trouble.

With even half decent service so far this season Kane would be in double figures already for club and country and the stats men would be wanking themselves furiously!

 

[buckley]

Perhaps a couple of ear rings a stupid hair cut and tattoos over most of his upper body and spotted out at two in the morning in the west end he will then become world class .

 

[wrd]

I watched the highlights, Kane looked to be very pissed off when Lamela didn't pass, It's actually pretty rare from Kane to not show composure in these kind of moments:



I can understand his frustration, we are just failing as a team to create anything for him.

 

[spursfan77]

Ive mentioned this a few times recently. We just don't get the ball to him quickly enough in effective areas.

Interestingly I took a mate on saturday (although he's a pompey fan) and he said something in the first half that surprised me. He said he couldn't believe how lazy Kane was in terms of how much movement he made. He's seen him live before and never mentioned it so its made me think, has he become more lazy or is it as because he's double marked and because we are so slow at moving th ball quickly and getting the ball to him in good areas at pace. I think its the latter personally.

I would be interested to see his distance covered stats and sprits made per game compared to games 2 years ago for example. Is there somewhere you can find these stats?

 

[Mr Pink]

Ive mentioned this a few times recently. We just don't get the ball to him quickly enough in effective areas.

Interestingly I took a mate on saturday (although he's a pompey fan) and he said something in the first half that surprised me. He said he couldn't believe how lazy Kane was in terms of how much movement he made. He's seen him live before and never mentioned it so its made me think, has he become more lazy or is it as because he's double marked and because we are so slow at moving th ball quickly and getting the ball to him in good areas at pace. I think its the latter personally.

I would be interested to see his distance covered stats and sprits made per game compared to games 2 years ago for example. Is there somewhere you can find these stats?

I think it's the latter. For nearly the whole of 2019 we've played far too passively.

Big article in the Times this morning regarding Poch's quotes that we lack aggression.

Well we do, and urgency. It's a problem that hasnt 'been addressed and allowed to Continue for far too long.

it's up to Poch to rectify it, simple as that. He's the manager and he's responsible for preparing and motivating the team.

 

[dagraham]

Ive mentioned this a few times recently. We just don't get the ball to him quickly enough in effective areas.

Interestingly I took a mate on saturday (although he's a pompey fan) and he said something in the first half that surprised me. He said he couldn't believe how lazy Kane was in terms of how much movement he made. He's seen him live before and never mentioned it so its made me think, has he become more lazy or is it as because he's double marked and because we are so slow at moving th ball quickly and getting the ball to him in good areas at pace. I think its the latter personally.

I would be interested to see his distance covered stats and sprits made per game compared to games 2 years ago for example. Is there somewhere you can find these stats?

Outside the box Kane has definitely slowed down his pressing and intensity. He doesn’t really run the channels anymore.

Inside the box though he still has the uncanny and natural strikers ability to find space. Sometimes in those situations the best thing a striker can do is actually stand still or make subtle, small movements. Which is why he often appears in just the right space at the right time. Unfortunately for England and quite often with us recently others are not playing the percentage pass to give him the service all strikers need.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I'm relatively relaxed about less pressing. While it's needed in certain areas of the pitch, when you think about the energy outlay vs. results, I'm not sure over the course of a game, when you consider how tired it would make him, it makes total sense for Harry to be pressing in the way he used to.

What I do feel is missing is movement off the ball. As a team, frankly.

I maintain that he's bulked up too much and he's not quite as mobile as he was

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

David Hyter really running with the Kane quotes after the draw even dredging up the quote from that big nosed Juve defender.

Hyter is such a Gooner, despise the way he is relishing this.

 

[Kiedis]

David Hyter really running with the Kane quotes after the draw even dredging up the quote from that big nosed Juve defender.

It's in times like these it helps reminding oneself that Chiellini did his ACL a couple of weeks ago.

 

[bubble07]

He's not at his best at the moment, but he's pretty much always been slow to get into top gear every season since he broke through. He's a rhythm player, he needs to feel totally sharp and in tune to be at his most dangerous.

When he starts to feel sharp he gets an ankle injury

 

[spursfan77]

I think it's the latter. For nearly the whole of 2019 we've played far too passively.

Big article in the Times this morning regarding Poch's quotes that we lack aggression.

Well we do, and urgency. It's a problem that hasnt 'been addressed and allowed to Continue for far too long.

it's up to Poch to rectify it, simple as that. He's the manager and he's responsible for preparing and motivating the team.

But what if they arent listening any more?

That seems to be the gist of his comments and that they are turning it on when they fancy it.

 

[buckley]

Just repeating what my son had seen . This time last year at the same time 6th . nil points in Europe .no signings . no stadium .
Wheras now 3rd 1 point in Europe . new stadium . 3 new signings.
These people that are wanting to change everything are really sounding like they are entitled to what I dot know.
We have in the Poch years always started slowly then built up momentum .
I suggest too many are listening to the pundits who to my eyes have always and always will be anti spurs to such an extent that you now have Hoddle saying Kane should leave spurs and that is the action of a back stabber and he can go F himself .
While the majority of pundits are ex Arsenal or ex Liverpool players we are not going to get someone fight our corner .
As for Hoddle I have said previously my son was at one of those evening with ex players and the one that he went to was with Hoddle .
He told me that all he was talking about was what he did or what happened at Chelsea to the extent that the chairman interrupted to say we are hear to talk about Spurs Glen not Chelsea.
So my opinion of his opinions is not got a high rating.
Dear god any spurs fan ex player who has the club at heart would not suggest that Kane should get a transfer. for Hoddle read Wanker

 

[Spurrific]

Just looking at top scorers list - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

Kane's shots on target ratio is pretty shit, surprisingly. I don't think he's been that bad, though. IDK why I'm posting, just found it interesting.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

The thing is you could pretty much level "not playing to their full ability" at every single player in our squad bar maybe Winks, Sissoko and Vertonghen over the past year.

Even when we have a great half of football, we've generally had a lacklustre half in the same game. It's really odd.

Almost feels like we're constantly experimenting in game at the moment, and everyone's lost sight a little of what the overall target/style/game plan is.

We often seem to switch off and start thinking about the next game when we're ahead too...

 

[spursfan77]

Seriously starting to get worried we’ve seen the best of him.

He’ll still be an excellent goal scorer but the injuries have really hit him hard.

 

[Sophos151]

Seriously starting to get worried we’ve seen the best of him.

He’ll still be an excellent goal scorer but the injuries have really hit him hard.

He’s looking like his old self whenever he pulls on an England shirt. I think he’s just suffering from our poor play.

 

[chinaman]

I think there's still something wrong with his ankle. In the last few matches, I've seen him shot very tamely with his left foot 5 or 6 times, which in the past would have been goals. Today he again wasted one very good chance by shooting very weakly with his left peg.