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Latest figures show That Prem Clubs owe £3.1 Billion

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England's 20 Premier League clubs owe a total of £3.1bn in bank overdrafts, loans and other borrowings, according to the latest published financial information. The accounts for the clubs, mostly documenting the year to May, June or July 2008, show that the FA chairman, Lord Triesman, significantly underestimated football's indebtedness when he cautioned last October that debts in the sport as a whole, including the Football League and the FA itself, were at £3bn.
Manchester United and Chelsea were by far the most indebted, owing £699m and £701m respectively, Arsenal were third, with £416m debts and Liverpool, the other top four club, were understood to owe around £280m; their accounts, due to be filed at Companies House last week, are overdue.
The debts of those top four clubs, incurred in very different ways, demonstrate the extremes to which Premier League clubs' finances have been taken. United, Premier and European Champions League winners in that 2007-08 season, nevertheless made a loss of £44.8m because of the swingeing interest the club pays on its debts. United owed £699m to financial institutions because the Florida-based Glazer family, who bought the club in 2005 largely with borrowed money, then loaded their own debts on to the club. In just three years to 2008, £263m has become payable by United in interest alone.
Liverpool's debt is similar, owed by the club's holding company, and including the £185m borrowed by the north American businessmen, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, when they acquired the club in 2007.
At Chelsea, by contrast, no money is owed to banks; the entire £701m was an interest-free loan made by the club's owner, Roman Abramovich, since he bought Chelsea in 2003. The Russian oligarch has poured money in to pay for players whose wages the club would otherwise not be able to afford, in his hunger to claim football trophies. Since the accounts were published, Chelsea, partly as a response to Triesman's warning about high debt levels, announced that Abramovich had reduced his loan to £339.8m, converting the rest to shares in the club.
Arsenal is the only Premier League club that incurred significant debt to carry out long-term investment. The club borrowed £260m originally to build the new Emirates Stadium, and a further £133m to convert the old Highbury ground into flats. Arsenal have been generally admired for prudence because the Emirates, with 60,000 seats – some very expensive – generates around double the money Highbury did, but the sales of apartments have stalled in the downturn, not producing the windfall expected when property prices were booming.
The 20 clubs' accounts show that despite booming incomes, which include the first season of a record £2.7bn TV deal which runs from 2007-10, Premier League clubs increasingly rely on subsidies from the billionaires who now mostly own the clubs. Manchester United's takeover may have resulted in huge sums going out of the club in interest payments, but 15 of the 20 clubs in last season's top flight are now subsidised by owners. After Abramovich, the next highest contribution came from Mohamed Al Fayed, whose interest free loans to Fulham increased to £174m.
The smaller Premier League clubs are struggling to compete financially, and as they are desperate to avoid relegation out of football's golden circle, they have been urgently seeking backers of their own. In the last week, two more clubs have announced takeovers: Sunderland, by Dallas-based private equity investor Ellis Short, and Portsmouth, by a consortium fronted by Dubai businessman Sulaiman Al Fahim.
The Premier League defends the financial picture presented, arguing that the levels of debt are generally manageable, given rising turnovers and the improved TV deal. Most clubs did not spend all their increase on swelling footballers' already galactic pay packets; wages, for players and administrative staff, did rise to £1.095bn, but at an average 55% of turnover that is generally reckoned to be sustainable.
If making it as a top footballer or manager still furnishes the most lucrative bank balances in English football, the top clubs' directors have also seen their salaries rise way above those for directors of non-football companies with similar turnover. Ten directors in football were paid over £1m in 2007-08. Keith Edelman Arsenal's former managing director, was paid the most: £2,726,000 in total, including a £1,056,000 payoff when he left the club on 1 May 2008.
Gordon Taylor, chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association, maintained his status as Britain's highest paid trade union official, with a salary package of £972,087.
Buy Wednesday's Guardian for David Conn's detailed breakdown and analysis of the latest accounts of all 20 Premier League clubs

I Knew the debt in Prem was pretty bad but £3.1 Billion :eek:mg:
 

Duffman

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2/3 of this debt is due to the big 4, looking at the numbers, the rest is split up between 11 clubs, with 5 not in debt
 

worcestersauce

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The clear message from this is: get into huge debt and be successful the facts don't lie.:wink:
 

leffe186

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Some of those wage % (of turnover) figures are amazing.

Arsenal 45%
Spurs 46%
Man U 47%
Sunderland 58%
Everton 59%
Bolton 66%
Man City 66%
Villa 67%
Chelsea 68%
Blackburn 70%
Fulham 73%
Boro 73%
Newcastle 74%
West Ham 76% 2007 - accounts delayed heehee
Hull 77% 2007 - accounts overdue
Portsmouth 78%
West Brom 80%
Wigan 89%
Stoke 106%
Liverpool ? accounts overdue *cough*

Frankly, if true, that's quite brilliant work by Levy et al and they deserve a round of applause. Don't know how that will have been affected by the close season business last year and January's work but I'm impressed.
 

Phantom

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Complete joke that clubs are allowed to continue increasing their debts. Almost £700 million worth of debt??? No matter just spend 30 million on Berbatov.......
 

miles_64

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PS - Check out the Profit/Loss before Tax figures (easiest way is to press Ctrl+F and type 'before tax') - Seems like we are one of the few profitable clubs out there. Wage bill went up 20% which worries me.
 

worcestersauce

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More importantly look at the turnover column:

Arsenal - £223m
Man Utd - £256m
Chelsea - £213m
Liverpool - £159m

Then Spurs are next with £114m so the gap is huge arsenal's is twice ours; is that due to the size of their ground or the direct & indirect income from the CL? If so we have a long way to go and just shows how absolutely essential the new ground is, in fact I have to ask how the hell can we compete otherwise.
 

TheChosenOne

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More importantly look at the turnover column:

Arsenal - £223m
Man Utd - £256m
Chelsea - £213m
Liverpool - £159m

Then Spurs are next with £114m so the gap is huge arsenal's is twice ours; is that due to the size of their ground or the direct & indirect income from the CL? If so we have a long way to go and just shows how absolutely essential the new ground is, in fact I have to ask how the hell can we compete otherwise.

Without looking too hard I found this table of CL fees.
http://www.fcfootballblog.com/2007/07/17/uefa-champions-league-2006-2007-prize-money-stats/

..which shows Liverpool receiving payments/prize money in 06/07 in the sum of £30mill euro, factor in gate receipts and sales days profits etc etc and the sum involved is quite hefty is reckon.
 

Kendall

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More importantly look at the turnover column:

Arsenal - £223m
Man Utd - £256m
Chelsea - £213m
Liverpool - £159m

Then Spurs are next with £114m so the gap is huge arsenal's is twice ours; is that due to the size of their ground or the direct & indirect income from the CL? If so we have a long way to go and just shows how absolutely essential the new ground is, in fact I have to ask how the hell can we compete otherwise.

Maybe so, but we own our ground at the moment and don't have to pay the huge sums of interest arsenal do every year so in terms of surplus cash we're probably quite a bit better off than them. Turnover means next to nothing if its all taken up with debt - which will end up happening to us once WHL2 is built.
 

haxman

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TheChosenOne

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Eek.. Can I change/and/or deny that I wrote £30mill euro, I know the rates are bad but they haven't merged yet.
 

worcestersauce

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Without looking too hard I found this table of CL fees.
http://www.fcfootballblog.com/2007/07/17/uefa-champions-league-2006-2007-prize-money-stats/

..which shows Liverpool receiving payments/prize money in 06/07 in the sum of £30mill euro, factor in gate receipts and sales days profits etc etc and the sum involved is quite hefty is reckon.

Cheers TCO it seems a direct 20m euro to reach knockout rounds in the CL so the rest must be mde up with gate receipts and spin off's.

Maybe so, but we own our ground at the moment and don't have to pay the huge sums of interest arsenal do every year so in terms of surplus cash we're probably quite a bit better off than them. Turnover means next to nothing if its all taken up with debt - which will end up happening to us once WHL2 is built.

I agree we are in a good position Kendall but in the final analysis turnover is a measure of money coming in whatever the money going out is so when Arsenal have paid their debt off their income will still be far higher than ours as it stands.
 

deselina

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this is why platini is on epl's case most of the time.

tbf. it's quite unfair to the rest of europe and even the rest of the epl when those so called big four clubs are doing so well with money that's mostly not theirs.
 
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