Juan Foyth

[Vincent30]

Airal prowess was there only weakness as a partnership, but it only really hurt us attacking corners imo not defending. As individual players they were both incredible defenders and 2 of our all time greats.

There defensive record speaks for themselves and I agree our defensive problems come from our soft midfield.

Sanchez is still young van dijk didn't becoming van dijk until his mid to late 20s. Sanchez is an athletic freak and with the right partner can blossom.

Idk about skriniar I'm skeptical about his pace and his heading ability.

Sanchez is not an athletic freak and will never develop into VVD. Sanchez is pretty quick once he gets going, he's not super rapid and 90% of the time against a powerful quick forward he loses out completely so how can he be this athletic freak, he has no idea on how to use his body and from his lack of progress in this area, never really will. He doesn't have the defensive brain of VVD, positioning, aerial ability, or strength. He is so far from VVD.

Why is everyone so hung up on pace and footballing ability for a CB. If a CB is great at reading the game and positionally aware of danger, that nullifies most pace. Skriniar is many times better in the air than Sanchez.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Can't say i'm that bothered, him and Sanchez both don't fill me massively with confidence.

Hopefully during his time in Spain he'll improve on his concentration which, in my onion, would make him a much better player.

 

[allpaths]

I agree - I don't see Foyth as anything but a potential Vertonghen or Alderwiereld; that is, a CB who has a good ability to play out from the back (almost the potential for DM).

That's great, but the idea of a 'skillful' CB would make me nervous - we dick about enough at the back for me to even want to contemplate anything but a no-nonsense CB.

It's much more important to get CB partnership that has a good balance. We get a pair of no nonsense bullies, we'd get pinned back and battered.

I do agree we need that physically dominate defender.

Sanchez is not an athletic freak and will never develop into VVD. Sanchez is pretty quick once he gets going, he's not super rapid and 90% of the time against a powerful quick forward he loses out completely so how can he be this athletic freak, he has no idea on how to use his body and from his lack of progress in this area, never really will. He doesn't have the defensive brain of VVD, positioning, aerial ability, or strength. He is so far from VVD.

Why is everyone so hung up on pace and footballing ability for a CB. If a CB is great at reading the game and positionally aware of danger, that nullifies most pace. Skriniar is many times better in the air than Sanchez.

Where exactly was VVD at the same stage in his career? That's right producing beauties like these.


I'm not saying it'll definitely happen for Sanchez, but with young defenders you have to be patient. Pace is important when you're playing in the fastest league in the world. One of VVD strongest attributes is his recovery pace.

 

[mark87]

It's much more important to get CB partnership that has a good balance. We get a pair of no nonsense bullies, we'd get pinned back and battered.

I do agree we need that physically dominate defender.

Where exactly was VVD at the same stage in his career? That's right producing beauties like these.


I'm not saying it'll definitely happen for Sanchez, but with young defenders you have to be patient. Pace is important when you're playing in the fastest league in the world. One of VVD strongest attributes is his recovery pace.

Kane through on goal, opens his body up to side foot to the keepers left...so Gaz goes right

 

[allpaths]

Kane through on goal, opens his body up to side foot to the keepers left...so Gaz goes right

VVD the defender that completely airshots his challenge letting Kane go through on goal. Didn't think I need to explain it.

 

[mark87]

VVD the defender that completely airshots his challenge letting Kane go through on goal. Didn't think I need to explain it.

No sorry my comment wasn't wasn't anything to do with vvd, I was questioning why Gaz went to his right when it was fairly obvious Kane was gonna go to his left.

 

[dtxspurs]

I think Toby will probably be sold next summer. The new contract just means we'll get a fee and he will not leave on a free like Jan.

Clubs just flat out don’t buy older defenders on big wages.

 

[dtxspurs]

Think he would have worked here in a back three or at RB but never as a CB in a two. He needed a spot to let his talents moving forward show and that wasn’t going to happen here. Not that bothered.

 

[allpaths]

No sorry my comment wasn't wasn't anything to do with vvd, I was questioning why Gaz went to his right when it was fairly obvious Kane was gonna go to his left.

lol Im just so focused on making my point, Haha

 

[USAYID]

I was really confused when I saw Foyth signed a new contract but then reading this, it makes perfect sense for him and us.

Also, giving your employee a pay rise and then getting someone else to pay for it... Levy is a genuis.

There had to be a carrot for Foyth to sign the extension. As others have said this loan is 2 years too late, but I hope he does well in Spain. Hopefully getting a run of games helps him work out the 1-2 errors per game he seems to have in him and builds up his confidence.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Carrot isn’t just the pay rise I imagine, but we might not have slowed him to go on the loan rather than a straight sale without it, and Villarreal or anyone else might not have been forthcoming to agree a straight sale.

 

[Sarsipius]

Nice move. Give him a pay rise and then get another club to pay it. #DonLevy

 

[Vincent30]

VVD the defender that completely airshots his challenge letting Kane go through on goal. Didn't think I need to explain it.

How does this back your point up? The best GK in the world will make a mistake or two, the best striker in the world will miss a tap in. What does this prove? Because VVD made a mistake, Sanchez has the potential to reach his level? Sanchez will never make VVD or Kings level, he has way too many flaws and has lacked any progression over the last 2 seasons.

I'm baffled you seem to think this validates your point in any way. You honestly believe Sanchez has the potential to be as good as VVD? That's like me saying Winks has the potential to be Pirlo. It's that ridiculous.

 

[DiVaio]

How does this back your point up? The best GK in the world will make a mistake or two, the best striker in the world will miss a tap in. What does this prove? Because VVD made a mistake, Sanchez has the potential to reach his level? Sanchez will never make VVD or Kings level, he has way too many flaws and has lacked any progression over the last 2 seasons.

I'm baffled you seem to think this validates your point in any way. You honestly believe Sanchez has the potential to be as good as VVD? That's like me saying Winks has the potential to be Pirlo. It's that ridiculous.

He is just saying that Davinson as 24yrs old is better than Van Dijk was as 24yrs...

 

[Vincent30]

He is just saying that Davinson as 24yrs old is better than Van Dijk was as 24yrs...

And i'm massively disagreeing with that. He's no where near VDD. How many offers of 75m are we receiving for Sanchez? Take the rose tinted glasses off for a moment, i'm very positive about our players but this is hilarious. Gomez is a better CB than Sanchez.

 

[DiVaio]

And i'm massively disagreeing with that. He's no where near VDD. How many offers of 75m are we receiving for Sanchez? Take the rose tinted glasses off for a moment, i'm very positive about our players but this is hilarious. Gomez is a better CB than Sanchez.

Read what I and @allpaths said again.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

And i'm massively disagreeing with that. He's no where near VDD. How many offers of 75m are we receiving for Sanchez? Take the rose tinted glasses off for a moment, i'm very positive about our players but this is hilarious. Gomez is a better CB than Sanchez.

I’m not equipped to contribute to an argument about who was better at Davinson’s age, him or Van Dyke, as I don’t think I’ve watched an SPL in shot 15 years and Van Dyke had only just transferred to Southampton that summer, so I ask you this, had you seen enough of Van Dyke before he moved to Southampton to be able to now say anyone of 24 or under could not reach his level?

Don’t get me wrong, while I think Sanchez is decent and could become very good, I doubt he’ll be as good as Van Dyke. I reckon that’s true of almost every centre back currently playing though. But equally I think he’s got everything needed to become very good in his own right.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I’m not equipped to contribute to an argument about who was better at Davinson’s age, him or Van Dyke, as I don’t think I’ve watched an SPL in shot 15 years and Van Dyke had only just transferred to Southampton that summer, so I ask you this, had you seen enough of Van Dyke before he moved to Southampton to be able to now say anyone of 24 or under could not reach his level?

Don’t get me wrong, while I think Sanchez is decent and could become very good, I doubt he’ll be as good as Van Dyke. I reckon that’s true of almost every centre back currently playing though. But equally I think he’s got everything needed to become very good in his own right.

Well this has aged very badly very quickly

 

[allpaths]

It's much more important to get CB partnership that has a good balance. We get a pair of no nonsense bullies, we'd get pinned back and battered.

I do agree we need that physically dominate defender.

Where exactly was VVD at the same stage in his career? That's right producing beauties like these.


I'm not saying it'll definitely happen for Sanchez, but with young defenders you have to be patient. Pace is important when you're playing in the fastest league in the world. One of VVD strongest attributes is his recovery pace.

flog him @Vincent30 was right all along.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Credit to him, since the penalty he has actually been a rock and super composed. Also, for the penalty he might have been a touch rash but he was put in a very difficult position by the miseries not hearing the kick of whistle and just letting untied pass behind us.