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tototoner

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Nice shout on Patrick sarsfield which covered my bet in the last so good tipping! The last was crooked as anything though. Thosedays drifted to 5/1 on Betfair before the off yet somehow official odds stayed at about 5/2 or something. They clearly knew he wasn't winning and must be setting him up for a nice mark. Felix probably too good anyway but would've been nice for him to at least have had a go.
Aye dodgy as hell

Winner won like a Group 1 horse in a class 6 handicap
 

dagraham

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Any tips for the Derby? I’m on Vatican City E/W, but fancy backing another with Sky Bet’s cash back offer if it finishes 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
 

stonecolddeanaustin

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Any tips for the Derby? I’m on Vatican City E/W, but fancy backing another with Sky Bet’s cash back offer if it finishes 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

Not a tip as this is just from reading the form but I'll be on russian emperor. Looks like he's made for that trip and the draw will really hinder English king and Mogul. We don't know if kameko will stay so RE looks the one with the least question marks against him out of the favourites imo.
 

dagraham

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Not a tip as this is just from reading the form but I'll be on russian emperor. Looks like he's made for that trip and the draw will really hinder English king and Mogul. We don't know if kameko will stay so RE looks the one with the least question marks against him out of the favourites imo.

He was the one I was going to back originally, as it won me money at Ascot and it arrived late and was still going strong at the line. Then I read that Ryan Moore had opted not to ride him. I know it shouldn’t really matter, but for some reason it put me off a bit.

As I said I’m looking to back another, and it’s 6-1 on Skybet with that offer so may still back it.
 

stonecolddeanaustin

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He was the one I was going to back originally, as it won me money at Ascot and it arrived late and was still going strong at the line. Then I read that Ryan Moore had opted not to ride him. I know it shouldn’t really matter, but for some reason it put me off a bit.

As I said I’m looking to back another, and it’s 6-1 on Skybet with that offer so may still back it.

Yeah, that's got to count against him a bit I suppose. I doubt there's much to choose between them though. Do they make that choice before or after the draw, do you know?
 

dagraham

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Yeah, that's got to count against him a bit I suppose. I doubt there's much to choose between them though. Do they make that choice before or after the draw, do you know?

No idea. He’s on Mogul who was very disappointing at Ascot, so he must have seen something about him since. Don’t fancy backing Mogul though.
 

luptic

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You would like to see English King with another run under his belt. But after watch his run at Lingfield and Frankie haul at Ascot there is only one horse worth backing.
O'Brien will have the numbers to block him in. But i think there is another gear in him, and im not impressed with Russian Emperor. Id be more worried about Kameko if he was tried over marginally further.
 

dagraham

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You would like to see English King with another run under his belt. But after watch his run at Lingfield and Frankie haul at Ascot there is only one horse worth backing.
O'Brien will have the numbers to block him in. But i think there is another gear in him, and im not impressed with Russian Emperor. Id be more worried about Kameko if he was tried over marginally further.

Yeah if anyone can negotiate a tricky draw and still get in the best position it’s Frankie. English King has drifted a bit as well, was 11/4, now 7/2 on Skybet.
 

Hotspur88

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I have......

Russian Emperor £100 @ 10/1

Kameko £100 @ 8/1

Had solid info on both of these. Emperor a few weeks back and Kameko very recently.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I'm on Russian Emperor at 10/1 for a McGarret, Kameko for £30 at 8's and a tenner each way on Worthily at 33/1
 

cider spurs

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Got £10 win on Russian Emperor @ 7/1 currently best price 11/2

Also stuck £5 e/way on Mohican Heights @ 28/1 currently best price 16/1

Best price guaranteed.

Did a Lucky 15 also with...

Twaasol
Caradoc
Frankly Darling
Russian Emperor
 

tototoner

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Pricewise (Tom Segal) Tips today

3.00 Epsom – Ironclad (4/1)

3.00 Epsom – Data Protection (20/1)

4.15 Epsom – Summer Romance (10/1)

4.55 Epsom – Vatican City (9/1)
 
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kr1978

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That wasn’t even a race-what a run from serpentine-absolutely bossed it
 
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