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shelfboy68

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Unfortunately ENIC are not going to leave anytime soon, if this continues into next season with crowds back I could see it getting a bit hostile for Mr levy.
But despite any abuse he may get he isn't going to be overly concerned, his dream of a multi purpose international sports and entertainment group is taking shape and taking money in equal measure.
Whilst he is in charge we won't win trophies or really compete for them, we have to accept it and play the long game waiting for him to leave because he won't change.
 

fuzzylogic

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Unfortunately ENIC are not going to leave anytime soon, if this continues into next season with crowds back I could see it getting a bit hostile for Mr levy.
But despite any abuse he may get he isn't going to be overly concerned, his dream of a multi purpose international sports and entertainment group is taking shape and taking money in equal measure.
Whilst he is in charge we won't win trophies or really compete for them, we have to accept it and play the long game waiting for him to leave because he won't change.

Unfortunately this is true???
 

DCSPUR

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Unfortunately ENIC are not going to leave anytime soon, if this continues into next season with crowds back I could see it getting a bit hostile for Mr levy.
But despite any abuse he may get he isn't going to be overly concerned, his dream of a multi purpose international sports and entertainment group is taking shape and taking money in equal measure.
Whilst he is in charge we won't win trophies or really compete for them, we have to accept it and play the long game waiting for him to leave because he won't change.

remember last summer when we were told the moves by Levy were so big we'd want a banner to him at the stadium....
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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No, that was Poch's fault remember. Now we've sacked him EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE.

Jackanory for today...

Titled: THE BALDY ****

'Rich daddy can you please buy me that round peg toy, it would be perfect'

'But son this square peg is much cheaper and will do the job...’

Week later son breaks cheap square peg toy easily, rinse and repeat...

...except there was the 1 year the son was being a really good boy but the rich dad counting his record profits told him to fuck off, not even a square peg toy...

... now son has moved out daddy not doing so well

THE END


The lack of investment is going to lead to huge losses. Levy really isn't the business genius he thinks he is. So now you don't get your champions league games or the commercial deals that he so badly wants. At some point you have to take a risk
Caviar on a baked beans budget was always going end at some point, I guess he can always pop in to Sainsburys see what 2 for 1’s they have make him feel better...
 
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You'd be better off pulling the corner flag out and running around the centre circle waving it aimlessly at which ever box Levy sometimes sits in.

We're almost at West Ham levels.
 

LDNYid

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We are basically waiting for him to die to see if anything changes. Obviously I’m not wishing that to happen.

I guarantee one thing, there won’t be any cash for THFC in his will. He seems like one of those rich people who wants to take it all with him when he goes so nobody else can have it.

Precisely - if our owners really had ambitions for us to be competing for trophies, this would be the summer to spend big. It sounds crazy, but with FFP relaxed, this is the summer to take advantage. But we won’t, because their is no ambition to achieve anything above staying commercially viable.
 
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Not quite that bad yet but will bear it in mind.
? :ROFLMAO: (y)
Oh we're tantalisingly close though.

Yeesh.gif
 

VancouverSpur

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Precisely - if our owners really had ambitions for us to be competing for trophies, this would be the summer to spend big. It sounds crazy, but with FFP relaxed, this is the summer to take advantage. But we won’t, because their is no ambition to achieve anything above staying commercially viable.
With many clubs hurting for cash after the impact of Covid this would be an ideal opportunity to try and go big in the market and grab some quality for lower than market value. But as you said we won't so forget what I just wrote.
 

TC18

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Can someone much cleverer than me explain why ENIC would ask £2billion for the club?

The Club itself has generated the large majority of the money to pay / finance the stadium and training ground. ENIC have put in very little (that I know of) towards the project.

Does a take over require that the new owner pay off all debts? Then re-finance them if they wish?

I just can’t get my head around the fact that ENIC could stand to make so much money but are prepared to invest so little themselves.
 

stonebrow

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Unfortunately ENIC are not going to leave anytime soon, if this continues into next season with crowds back I could see it getting a bit hostile for Mr levy.
But despite any abuse he may get he isn't going to be overly concerned, his dream of a multi purpose international sports and entertainment group is taking shape and taking money in equal measure.
Whilst he is in charge we won't win trophies or really compete for them, we have to accept it and play the long game waiting for him to leave because he won't change.
Exactly, protests or banners flying over the stadium will not change or bother Levy whatsoever. As you said...we have to playing the waiting game.
 

danielneeds

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Can someone much cleverer than me explain why ENIC would ask £2billion for the club?

The Club itself has generated the large majority of the money to pay / finance the stadium and training ground. ENIC have put in very little (that I know of) towards the project.

Does a take over require that the new owner pay off all debts? Then re-finance them if they wish?

I just can’t get my head around the fact that ENIC could stand to make so much money but are prepared to invest so little themselves.
It’s just what they value the club at and it’s why there’s zero chance of anyone buying it. You’d have to pay ENIC, still pay off the rest of the stadium, and invest in the team. There’s no value in it.
 

makeveli

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If I owned spurs levy wouldn’t get a bonus for doing his job and making a stadium he would be sacked for not provided results or a structure
 

Spartan Spurs

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I'm not even asking for ENIC to go.
All I'd want is for the infrastructure or system off the field to change.

Levy is not a footballing mind.

Invest & bring in a scouting team like Campos' company or a Rangnick to do the business they know so well.
Guys like them have proven to be able to do the job even on a shoestring budget.
They can unearth 3-4 young diamonds for £15-20M each window.
Do that over the course of a year or two & viola. Imagine the squad you can have.
This is even more imperative in these CV19 tunes,

Levy just has to let go of the reins a bit. He can still authorize the transfer budget
Have him change his title to whatever he wants ie "Super Duper Man" & just sit upstairs & collect his £8M/year.
 

AberdeenYid

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Is there a possibility we might go down the Wolves route and align ourselves with an agent almost exclusively? Jorge Mendes would be the one that makes sense and it would remove Levy from the player identification and maybe negate the need for a DOF?
 

SpursSince1980

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It’s just what they value the club at and it’s why there’s zero chance of anyone buying it. You’d have to pay ENIC, still pay off the rest of the stadium, and invest in the team. There’s no value in it.
There is. But it’s a long term investment. Which is probably why it would make more sense for a group to buy them, over a singular investor. You’d have to be very patient to see a return on investment... which would likely take about ten or so years. So, unless some exorbitantly rich individual wants to buy them as a play thing, it’s probably going to take a much larger business entity to come up with the moola. And even then, there are risks aplenty to consider. So, whether we like it or not, we are trapped with ENIC, Levy, Lewis, and the crippling stadium debt for the foreseeable future. Which is kinda a bummer, considering how precipitous our decline has become. Hard to see us competing for CL places over the four or five years. Much depends on getting lucky with low risk transfers on younger, unproven talent, and selling big players for huge transfer fees... a la Dortmund. But that also feels like a pipe dream, as it requires an extremely serious recalibration from the bottom up. A philosophy that would need to be woven into every aspect of player recruitment and development. A reset and restructuring that Levy and Lewis haven’t demonstrated much of an appetite for.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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There is. But it’s a long term investment. Which is probably why it would make more sense for a group to buy them, over a singular investor. You’d have to be very patient to see a return on investment... which would likely take about ten or so years. So, unless some exorbitantly rich individual wants to buy them as a play thing, it’s probably going to take a much larger business entity to come up with the moola. And even then, there are risks aplenty to consider. So, whether we like it or not, we are trapped with ENIC, Levy, Lewis, and the crippling stadium debt for the foreseeable future. Which is kinda a bummer, considering how precipitous our decline has become. Hard to see us competing for CL places over the four or five years. Much depends on getting lucky with low risk transfers on younger, unproven talent, and selling big players for huge transfer fees... a la Dortmund. But that also feels like a pipe dream, as it requires an extremely serious recalibration from the bottom up. A philosophy that would need to be woven into every aspect of player recruitment and development. A reset and restructuring that Levy and Lewis haven’t demonstrated much of an appetite for.
Great post. I’ll précis it into two words: we’re fucked
 
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