Player Watch: Serge Aurier

Gassin's finest · Jul 13, 2020

Christ!

Christopher Aurier, brother of Tottenham's Serge, shot dead in France

Christopher Aurier dies in hospital after being shot in the French city of Toulouse.

www.bbc.co.uk

Doctor Dinkey · Jul 13, 2020

Terrible news. Puts everything into perspective.

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

Terrible news. Nobody deserves that and Serge must be distraught.

That being said, he was not a nice guy. In 2017 he planned to meet up with a prostitute with two other men. There they threatened her with a gun, used tear gas on her and robbed her. He was caught using DNA evidence. Last night he was tragically shot in a seedy bar in Toulouse.

This sort of delinquency is not something you fall into lightly and is shocking given his brothers fame and wealth. He paid the ultimate price for his bad decisions.

I hope Serge is given time to grieve. Despite his own violent behavior he is in no way responsible for his brothers wrongs.

southlondonyiddo · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
Terrible news. Nobody deserves that and Serge must be distraught.

That being said, he was not a nice guy. In 2017 he planned to meet up with a prostitute with two other men. There they threatened her with a gun, used tear gas on her and robbed her. He was caught using DNA evidence. Last night he was tragically shot in a seedy bar in Toulouse.

This sort of delinquency is not something you fall into lightly and is shocking given his brothers fame and wealth. He paid the ultimate price for his bad decisions.

I hope Serge is given time to grieve. Despite his own violent behavior he is in no way responsible for his brothers wrongs.

Thanks for posting NOT!

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

southlondonyiddo said:
Thanks for posting NOT!

Perhaps it was a way of mentally dealing with the fact that his career never took off in the same way as his brothers ?

Tragic anyway. Poor family

E17yid · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
Terrible news. Nobody deserves that and Serge must be distraught.

That being said, he was not a nice guy. In 2017 he planned to meet up with a prostitute with two other men. There they threatened her with a gun, used tear gas on her and robbed her. He was caught using DNA evidence. Last night he was tragically shot in a seedy bar in Toulouse.

This sort of delinquency is not something you fall into lightly and is shocking given his brothers fame and wealth. He paid the ultimate price for his bad decisions.

I hope Serge is given time to grieve. Despite his own violent behavior he is in no way responsible for his brothers wrongs.

We he even charged with anything as the only thing I saw that referenced it said allegedly.

Sweech · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
Terrible news. Nobody deserves that and Serge must be distraught.

That being said, he was not a nice guy. In 2017 he planned to meet up with a prostitute with two other men. There they threatened her with a gun, used tear gas on her and robbed her. He was caught using DNA evidence. Last night he was tragically shot in a seedy bar in Toulouse.

This sort of delinquency is not something you fall into lightly and is shocking given his brothers fame and wealth. He paid the ultimate price for his bad decisions.

I hope Serge is given time to grieve. Despite his own violent behavior he is in no way responsible for his brothers wrongs.

Not needed.

Why on earth do people do this?

Shadydan · Jul 13, 2020

Sweech said:
Not needed.

Why on earth do people do this?

Yeah BS post really

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

E17yid said:
We he even charged with anything as the only thing I saw that referenced it said allegedly.

According to French sources he was charged and summoned before a judge. I can’t see what happened after that but it was DNA that linked him to the crime so it’s a reasonable presumption that he was involved.

Also he was known to the police before that incident so he had a string of antisocial and criminal acts. By his own admission he fell in with the wrong people and it wrecked his chances of becoming pro.

That is the tragedy here. It’s not a smear. It’s a sad story of how his lack of focus on sport and bad choices led to a terrible outcome for him.

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

Sweech said:
Not needed.

Why on earth do people do this?

It beggars belief that there is no link between his delinquency and his death. It’s a really sad thing and I have said no one deserves to be shot dead. I feel terrible for the family. No parent should have to outlive their child and it’s a tragedy.

Sweech · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
It beggars belief that there is no link between his delinquency and his death. It’s a really sad thing and I have said no one deserves to be shot dead. I feel terrible for the family. No parent should have to outlive their child and it’s a tragedy.

Do you think anyone at his eulogy would be saying this crap or do you think they might have more respect for the dead?

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

Sweech said:
Do you think anyone at his eulogy would be saying this crap or do you think they might have more respect for the dead?

This is a comment on a news story not his funeral.

I don’t respect his actions and his poor decisions. Nobody should. Christopher himself expressed regret about the bad crowd and decisions he had made in 2017. Unlike so many kids, Christopher had a way out. He did not choose it.

I know what it is like to see teenagers lives cut short through violence. These are tragedies and the heart bleeds. This is an adult with a sustained track record and there were two places he was going to end up - dead or in jail.

I don’t think you help anyone by glossing over this. Violence begets violence. Innocent adults don’t typically get shot in the Uk or France. Christopher had a way out that so many don’t have.

This is a human tragedy but your insistence that everyone share your pious reverence is misplaced virtue signaling. And I know that won’t be a popular view but it’s true.

wrd · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
This is a comment on a news story not his funeral.

I don’t respect his actions and his poor decisions. Nobody should. Christopher himself expressed regret about the bad crowd and decisions he had made in 2017. Unlike so many kids, Christopher had a way out. He did not choose it.

I know what it is like to see teenagers lives cut short through violence. These are tragedies and the heart bleeds. This is an adult with a sustained track record and there were two places he was going to end up - dead or in jail.

I don’t think you help anyone by glossing over this. Violence begets violence. Innocent adults don’t typically get shot in the Uk or France. Christopher had a way out that so many don’t have.

This is a human tragedy but your insistence that everyone share your pious reverence is misplaced virtue signaling. And I know that won’t be a popular view but it’s true.

There's no evidence or information thus far to support the idea that his previous actions have any correlation to what has happened and furthermore to say innocent adults don't typically get shot is pointless conjecture at this current moment.

People are showing empathy specifically to one of our players because he lost a brother. What said brother did in his past is irrelevant to people showing empathy to Aurier and extremely irrelevant given that as I said no evidence has come out to suggest any wrong doing on the brothers part as of yet.

Shadydan · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
This is a comment on a news story not his funeral.

I don’t respect his actions and his poor decisions. Nobody should. Christopher himself expressed regret about the bad crowd and decisions he had made in 2017. Unlike so many kids, Christopher had a way out. He did not choose it.

I know what it is like to see teenagers lives cut short through violence. These are tragedies and the heart bleeds. This is an adult with a sustained track record and there were two places he was going to end up - dead or in jail.

I don’t think you help anyone by glossing over this. Violence begets violence. Innocent adults don’t typically get shot in the Uk or France. Christopher had a way out that so many don’t have.

This is a human tragedy but your insistence that everyone share your pious reverence is misplaced virtue signaling. And I know that won’t be a popular view but it’s true.

Interesting that you reference what happened 3 years ago, how is that linked to this particular story?

Sweech · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
This is a comment on a news story not his funeral.

I don’t respect his actions and his poor decisions. Nobody should. Christopher himself expressed regret about the bad crowd and decisions he had made in 2017. Unlike so many kids, Christopher had a way out. He did not choose it.

I know what it is like to see teenagers lives cut short through violence. These are tragedies and the heart bleeds. This is an adult with a sustained track record and there were two places he was going to end up - dead or in jail.

I don’t think you help anyone by glossing over this. Violence begets violence. Innocent adults don’t typically get shot in the Uk or France. Christopher had a way out that so many don’t have.

This is a human tragedy but your insistence that everyone share your pious reverence is misplaced virtue signaling. And I know that won’t be a popular view but it’s true.

The fact that you feel that a man's tragic death is your chance at a soap box is sad, but the real tragedy is that you're wilfully calling it a "news story" rather than his death is what really says a lot.

Don't try and change the subject to "virtue signalling" either. I'm calling you out for being a dick and posting absolute crap, which you are. Someone just lost their life and it's incredibly disrespectful to act like actions made three years ago somehow justify the death of someone or are even necessary to bring up at a time like this. Learn to have even an ounce of class and respect.

LeParisien · Jul 13, 2020

@Shadydan @wrd @Sweech

I don’t want to be pushed into a place where I am railing against someone who got shot. I have said that this is a tragedy and expressed sympathy for Serge and his family. Nothing else should detract from that.

You may be reacting a bit to the feeling that I am rushing to a judgement in some right-wing manner about someone without any evidence. Fair enough. I am probably reacting to a faux-naivety that his sustained criminal past isn’t likely linked and a kind of soft bigotry that is shown to immigrant communities - « you don’t know any better, it’s not your fault ». There’s probably some truth to both perspectives.

I won’t reply anymore in here because it’s not so useful. Thoughts with his family.

fishhhandaricecake · Jul 13, 2020

Horrendous news thoughts are with him. Wish fans were in the ground so whenever he comes back we could give him an extra specially loud cheer to show our support.

southlondonyiddo · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
It beggars belief that there is no link between his delinquency and his death. It’s a really sad thing and I have said no one deserves to be shot dead. I feel terrible for the family. No parent should have to outlive their child and it’s a tragedy.

Shut the fuck up ffs

Locotoro · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
You may be reacting a bit to the feeling that I am rushing to a judgement in some right-wing manner about someone without any evidence. Fair enough. I am probably reacting to a faux-naivety that his sustained criminal past isn’t likely linked and a kind of soft bigotry that is shown to immigrant communities - « you don’t know any better, it’s not your fault ». There’s probably some truth to both perspectives.

Can someone explain to me what this actually means?

Sweech · Jul 13, 2020

LeParisien said:
@Shadydan @wrd @Sweech

I don’t want to be pushed into a place where I am railing against someone who got shot. I have said that this is a tragedy and expressed sympathy for Serge and his family. Nothing else should detract from that.

You may be reacting a bit to the feeling that I am rushing to a judgement in some right-wing manner about someone without any evidence. Fair enough. I am probably reacting to a faux-naivety that his sustained criminal past isn’t likely linked and a kind of soft bigotry that is shown to immigrant communities - « you don’t know any better, it’s not your fault ». There’s probably some truth to both perspectives.

I won’t reply anymore in here because it’s not so useful. Thoughts with his family.

This isn't something political at all - right, wing, left wing, or centrist is a distraction.

"A sustained criminal past" shouldn't be a death sentence and you're essentially saying one thing with "Nothing else should detract from that" and then literally in every other word making an attempt to detract from the tragedy of a man losing his life by attempting to paint a picture where previous alleged criminality means the death was somehow inevitable.

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