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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

HedgieSpur

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Jan 21, 2020
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Why? He has Burnley playing functional football but give him a budget and he might want to change things up.

He'd have to interview well but he is strong tactically, thorough in his recruitment and not afraid to play kids who impress (Dwight McNeil the obvious recent example). All those three things would be good for us.

Plus from his appearance on Crouchy's podcast he sounds like a fantastic man manager as well.

We have the master at playing "functional football", we don't need to hire the lite version.
 

Vincent30

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Aug 31, 2012
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Why? He has Burnley playing functional football but give him a budget and he might want to change things up.

He'd have to interview well but he is strong tactically, thorough in his recruitment and not afraid to play kids who impress (Dwight McNeil the obvious recent example). All those three things would be good for us.

Plus from his appearance on Crouchy's podcast he sounds like a fantastic man manager as well.

Thing is i think this is part of our problem as Spurs fans, like players we bring in, we sometimes look at the fancy shiny toy rather than the reliable consistent one .

I don't mind Jose getting a summer to have the players he wants and next season to show us what he can do.

But wouldn't be opposed at all, with Dyche, Wilder or Nuno as manager. Each of these have a plan, a style, and their players give everything (we lack all 3 currently). What more could you want as a supporter. I have to agree with you and wouldn't be opposed to Dyche at all. Would he be my first choice, no, but i think it's a little arrogant for people to just say no because he manages Burnley, his performance says otherwise and over many seasons.
 
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Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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We have the master at playing "functional football", we don't need to hire the lite version.
You don't know that Dyche would still play functional football if he were given players who were more gifted than the ones he currently has and a budget to buy better players. He's never been given the chance to do anything else.
Thing is i think this is part of our problem as Spurs fans, like players we bring in, we sometimes look at the fancy shiny toy rather than the reliable consistent one who.

I don't mind Jose getting a summer to have the players he wants and next season to show us what he can do.

But wouldn't be opposed at all, with Dyche, Wilder or Nuno as manager. Each of these have a plan, a style, and their players give everything (we lack all 3 currently). What more could you want as a supporter. I have to agree with you and wouldn't be opposed to Dyche at all. Would he be my first choice, no, but i think it's a little arrogant for people to just say no because he manages Burnley, his performance says otherwise and over many seasons.
This is exactly what I'm getting at, great post.
 

HedgieSpur

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Thing is i think this is part of our problem as Spurs fans, like players we bring in, we sometimes look at the fancy shiny toy rather than the reliable consistent one who.

I don't mind Jose getting a summer to have the players he wants and next season to show us what he can do.

But wouldn't be opposed at all, with Dyche, Wilder or Nuno as manager. Each of these have a plan, a style, and their players give everything (we lack all 3 currently). What more could you want as a supporter. I have to agree with you and wouldn't be opposed to Dyche at all. Would he be my first choice, no, but i think it's a little arrogant for people to just say no because he manages Burnley, his performance says otherwise and over many seasons.

You forgot to include the phrase "foreign fancy dans" in your post....
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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And I hate quoting myself, but seeing the entitled crybabies in our fanbase wetting their pants over getting Sean Dyche as our manager would be worth whatever it ended up costing.
I openly admit that my choices of who should be manager are often pretty terrible.

When looking for a manager to make a big step up there are factors I look to:

Playing style: Rodgers got Swansea playing good, high possession football that suits better clubs and he seemed well suited to a team with better players. Nothing in Dyche's style suggests this to me.

Getting the best out of individuals: Redknapp was excellent at putting a team together and giving flair players the freedom to perform. I have seen none of this from Dyche.

Has he knowledge of the top level: managing a club like Spurs is not just about first team management but about dealing with the press and the board. Managers like Pep knew the top level throughout their playing career and were suited to a top level management job as that level is what he knows. Dyche has no knowledge of top level football as a player or manager.

Has he achieved anything special? Jose won the Europa and CL at Porto. Redknapp won the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Dyche has achieved nothing more than getting Burnley playing quite well in the Prem.

For me I just can't see anything in him that suggests we should be hiring him at this stage of his managerial career.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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I could have predicted where the spams would come from. Touched a nerve jose fans? :):sneaky:
You know full well that you’re getting spammed not for your Jose dislike but because your gleeful is told you so’ shows you to care more about being right than about the fortunes of the club, which makes you the worst kind of person.
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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I openly admit that my choices of who should be manager are often pretty terrible.

When looking for a manager to make a big step up there are factors I look to:

Playing style: Rodgers got Swansea playing good, high possession football that suits better clubs and he seemed well suited to a team with better players. Nothing in Dyche's style suggests this to me.

Getting the best out of individuals: Redknapp was excellent at putting a team together and giving flair players the freedom to perform. I have seen none of this from Dyche.

Has he knowledge of the top level: managing a club like Spurs is not just about first team management but about dealing with the press and the board. Managers like Pep knew the top level throughout their playing career and were suited to a top level management job as that level is what he knows. Dyche has no knowledge of top level football as a player or manager.

Has he achieved anything special? Jose won the Europa and CL at Porto. Redknapp won the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Dyche has achieved nothing more than getting Burnley playing quite well in the Prem.

For me I just can't see anything in him that suggests we should be hiring him at this stage of his managerial career.
I see where you're coming from, and I'm not saying Dyche is necessarily my first choice although I like him a lot, but the one thing I'd say about your criteria is that I think the top level knowledge point is massively overrated by most pundits and fans.

Klopp played most of his career at Mainz and never played or managed a minute of top flight football before he took Mainz up to the Bundesliga, for example. Yes Liverpool have got him after his time with Dortmund but he had less top flight experience than Dyche has now when Dortmund gave him a chance. Wenger had no playing career of note and only had a couple of good seasons with Monaco on his CV before Arsenal.

Getting the best out of individuals is a subjective issue too, as if you can't say Dyche gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal at Burnley I'm not sure what criteria you're applying. Dwight McNeil has done very well for a season and a half in the first team now and the rest of his team ... has no flair. You can't tell players to play a certain way when you can see with the naked eye that they're totally unsuited to it and you don't have money to buy replacements who have both flair and what it takes to play at the top level.
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm not saying Dyche is necessarily my first choice although I like him a lot, but the one thing I'd say about your criteria is that I think the top level knowledge point is massively overrated by most pundits and fans.

Klopp played most of his career at Mainz and never played or managed a minute of top flight football before he took Mainz up to the Bundesliga, for example. Yes Liverpool have got him after his time with Dortmund but he had less top flight experience than Dyche has now when Dortmund gave him a chance. Wenger had no playing career of note and only had a couple of good seasons with Monaco on his CV before Arsenal.

Getting the best out of individuals is a subjective issue too, as if you can't say Dyche gets the best out of the players he has at his disposal at Burnley I'm not sure what criteria you're applying. Dwight McNeil has done very well for a season and a half in the first team now and the rest of his team ... has no flair. You can't tell players to play a certain way when you can see with the naked eye that they're totally unsuited to it and you don't have money to buy replacements who have both flair and what it takes to play at the top level.
Naturally there is not one route to the top but your rebuttals actually agree with me rather than disagree.

It makes sense for a manager to manage at the level he knows. So Lampard managing at the top level early makes more sense than a Sean Dyche.

If a manager doesn't have that then they need to be a cut above everyone else. The job Klopp did at Mainz got him the job at Dortmund and the titles he won for him the Liverpool job. If he'd done a Dyche level job then he wouldn't have got the opportunity.

Wenger won a French title which got him the Arsenal job.

No Burnley player has truly excelled. Dyche has done nothing special for the team and shown no experience of managing top level players.

He needs to do a much better job before stepping up. Klopp and Wenger both did.
 

Marty

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Naturally there is not one route to the top but your rebuttals actually agree with me rather than disagree.

It makes sense for a manager to manage at the level he knows. So Lampard managing at the top level early makes more sense than a Sean Dyche.

If a manager doesn't have that then they need to be a cut above everyone else. The job Klopp did at Mainz got him the job at Dortmund and the titles he won for him the Liverpool job. If he'd done a Dyche level job then he wouldn't have got the opportunity.

Wenger won a French title which got him the Arsenal job.

No Burnley player has truly excelled. Dyche has done nothing special for the team and shown no experience of managing top level players.

He needs to do a much better job before stepping up. Klopp and Wenger both did.
The job Klopp did at Mainz was take them to the Bundesliga for the first time in their history, keep them up for a couple of seasons and then get relegated. His Mainz job was basically similar to what Eddie Howe's done with Bournemouth and it was a huge, and I mean really huge, gamble by Dortmund when they appointed him.

Sometimes a club has to take a gamble and I don't agree with dismissing "project" managers like Dyche out of hand because they haven't experienced top PL or international level before when he's shown he gets the most out of the players he's given to work with time and time again.

But hell I'd take Gareth Ainsworth as manager tomorrow given the chance, maybe I just like lower league cloggers who have a bit of personality.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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I really liek Dyche and dont mind his moaning (we have the master at the helm at moaning) but he would need to go to a bigger club at than Burnley to then progress into the top six club (which we are just about but could be a big five after next season)
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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You lot talking about Dyche lol what do you think he's doing with this current Spurs team? Honestly?
 

stov

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Jul 20, 2005
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You know full well that you’re getting spammed not for your Jose dislike but because your gleeful is told you so’ shows you to care more about being right than about the fortunes of the club, which makes you the worst kind of person.
Wow the worst kind of person. Someone likes hyperbole.

Also I'm not enjoying being right ( I watch the games ffs) I just wanted to poke fun at those have been fanatical about jose the winner. These were the posters who spammed and disliked every post that was anti mourinho when he was appointed.
 
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