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Well, to be honest, Usyk is a better boxer than Fury. His problem is he will look like a child fighting a man if he shares the ring with Fury!
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Well, to be honest, Usyk is a better boxer than Fury. His problem is he will look like a child fighting a man if he shares the ring with Fury!
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Wilder was finished after three rounds. He was wobbling around unsteady from then onwards.
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Something that amazed me about Tyson - even when his legs started to get weary and he slowed down noticeably late into round 4, his upper body looked like it had it's own generator as he didn't stop bobbing and weaving and throwing combinations.
Even as the fight was closing out - and yeah, maybe the end being in sight was a boost - he looked pretty fresh other than sluggish moving around the ring.
Even as the fight was closing out - and yeah, maybe the end being in sight was a boost - he looked pretty fresh other than sluggish moving around the ring.
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He was getting outboxed by Gerald Washington not so long ago. He’s never been even a good boxer really, just a hellish puncher. Glad Fury beat him for many reasons but one is because it shows having one trick, all be it a pretty fucking impressive trick, isn’t enough against top level, well rounded boxers.
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That smack to the head he took, the first arguable knock down, was flush on his ear. Busted it open but Wilder looked to go downhill rapidly, lost his balance and tripped three(?) times after, i'm really convinced he bust an ear drum with that big glove.
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Watching the fight again - Tyson fought really smart. From the first bell he put himself in charge and you can see how much Wilder was on the back foot trying to figure him out. Into round five, Wilder's got blood in his ear and gets progressively less stable on his feet, wouldn't surprise me if he's bust an ear drum, but he starts shielding his ribs after that big body shot too, I wonder if he's broken a couple there too.
Once he knew this wasn't going to run it's course he wasn't so bothered about the point loss, but it was right he docked him, price he chose to pay for making Wilder wear him like a hat most of the fight after round three. Licking his neck in the clinch was a laugh though, that's got to be right up there as an amazing psych out
Wilder looked shook from the off though, wasn't on his game at all. He needs to bulk up some as even the hooks he landed were just shrugged off by Tyson once he had set out his stand in the middle of the ring and I think that towel was just admitting he had been battered out of the match.
He'll feel that for a few weeks, he was smashed up like a car in a junk yard by the end. Once he's over the frustration of it all and watches the fight back, looks at the injuries, he'll thank his corner.
Not sure he needs to bulk up. He didn’t look too fast, with the few right hands he attempted. Even more size will slow him down even more. He has the power to stop anyone, he needs to work on the best way of getting his shots to land, not adding bulk.
It’s not happening anyway, he’s 35 and has relied on the single shots for the years. There’s every chance his confidence is shot to bits after that and might see him lose to other fighters from her onwards. He’s flawed. Fury could well have broken him completely.
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Joshua can box. He adapted superbly for the rematch with Ruiz to be fair. Not saying he’d outbox Fury but he’d have success.
He’s also far more aggressive than Wilder, who tends to sit and wait. He’s also much bigger and stronger than Deontay so won’t be easy to ragdoll and of course he carries serious power too.
I think it could be a great fight. Fury is favourite but it’s nothing like a foregone conclusion imo.
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I'm really looking forward to it. In fact I probably haven't looked forward to a British match up so much since the Benn vs Eubanks days.
It has everything required to become a potential classic and will be interesting to see who becomes the peoples champ.
A couple of years ago, AJ would have been the publics fave but Fury has done so much to rebuild himself, he's certainly won a place in people's hearts.
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Not sure I agree with that. He was in control, let his concentration lapse and then took a concussive punch to the temple, after that he couldn’t sort himself back out as he was well concussed.
Second fight he kept his concentration and broke Ruiz. Who just couldn’t do anything.
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Disagree. Joshua didn't just take one punch then lose to Ruiz. He was trying to make a statement and going for the knockout. He knocked Ruiz down clean then went for the knockout when Ruiz wasn't ready to go. Each time Joshua got knocked down it was from Joshua landing a shot on Ruiz then he went for the knockout and Ruiz came back with a flurry of punches.
It was a very naive performance from Joshua.
The next fight I defended Joshua's performance when many on here were criticising him. He jabbed and moved and held when he needed to.
But I think against a better and smarter boxer like Fury is something Joshua will struggle with. I don't think he is a smart fighter tactically and Fury will change his game enough to put Joshua in real trouble.
Not writing Joshua off completely but to beat Fury I believe he would need to really go for it from the off and hope Fury has one of his fights where he starts slowly.
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Can’t see a trilogy as this was a comprehensive win for Fury.
Absolutely it’s now set for a Fury-Joshua showdown which will be a massive spectacle here but whether that actually transpires in the medium term who knows - most likely a lot of bollocks spouted via the media about how the other team is ducking but obviously this what the public want to see.
As @SugarRay said though, Usyk is the one to watch here as if he gets comfortable at heavyweight then he can be a massive contender so might be worth either Fury or Joshua taking him on now.
Absolutely it’s now set for a Fury-Joshua showdown which will be a massive spectacle here but whether that actually transpires in the medium term who knows - most likely a lot of bollocks spouted via the media about how the other team is ducking but obviously this what the public want to see.
As @SugarRay said though, Usyk is the one to watch here as if he gets comfortable at heavyweight then he can be a massive contender so might be worth either Fury or Joshua taking him on now.
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I don’t disagree with this, but I think a lot of it was a symptom of the punch.
I think joshua poses a big challenge for Fury. He is big and powerful, and will move, unlike wilder. Styles make fights so hopefully it is a great one
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Always believed his mental issues have been overblown. He served a ban, for nandrolene ( not coke or any other recreational drug ) after Wlad, and basically went on the piss. He was on the juice, along with Hughie for a while and certainly for the Wlad fight.
I don’t doubt he was struggling, who wouldn’t have some issues being raised by a father like he has! He’s been lined up by his family as the heavyweight champion since he was 11, just think it’s been overegged. It’s a positive though, he inspires people.
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Wilder has a 30 day clause to accept a part 3 let’s hope he doesn’t want anymore of fury and we can see fury cement himself as a future great against AJ.
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All punchers eventually come up against someone who can either take their power or avoid it. Boxing is fascinating because of it too, love it.
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