What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 19/20

[Flynn]

Or cue.

Thank goodness someone is bringing this thread back on topic.

 

[SwedishSpurs]

I particularly enjoyed this, hidden among Ilkay Gundogan's salty tweet:

Gundogan actually moaned in a tweet about the decision? I would be seriously embarrassed if one of our players did something like that.

 

[NorthernYido]

There is a thread on FTL talking about quite a lot of trouble after the match. City fans waiting outside (Maybe that's what he means by Grey Mar Lane?), Police unprepared, City fans attacking men, women and children.

One post:
They were there but they were massively caught by surprise by the numbers city had and the fact that they were really wanting to attack us. As we came out of the away end we were pretty much ambushed. As we walked further along the road the situation got worse as the city fans were trying hard to break through the police. We were in-between a them and a fence and had they broke through we were in the shit to be honest. We managed to get out of the bottle neck eventually but the atmosphere was really toxic everywhere.

Back in the station it all kicked off again.

City fans were scum, they were targeting anything they could get to and it didn't matter if you had no interest in fighting them or not.

I think our fans will remember today when they come to WHL.

Just to stick my 2 penneth in, I used to live a 2 minute drive from City's ground.
When you come out of the away end the police shuffle you down the road towards the city centre/station. The immediate road borders one of the poorest/roughest estates in Manchester ; Berwick/Bradford. Away fans often get set upon there, kids from the estate (Im pretty convinced many haven't even been to the match) can cause some trouble and melt back into the estate, the police struggle to manage it because it's a really wide road and the gits hide in the trees, shout spurs songs then set upon the away fans who respond.
My advice is always to keep your heads down for the first half a mile

 

[dagraham]

Danny Kelly made a really good point yesterday. After the Llorente goal last season guardiola complained that they need to update the laws to stop this kind of goal. Ironic that now that very rule he was asking for has gone against him he’s moaning to change it back. Tit

Guardiola is a sour faced tit, but personally I don’t like the new rule and think it’s unnecessary to include all handballs ( accidental or otherwise) in the build up to the goal. The goal scorer themselves alone is sufficient imo.

I also don’t like the “unnatural position” crap either. Let the refs go back to making a judgement of whether a handball is deliberate or not ( apart from it directly hitting the goal scorer).

They could still use VAR for contentious decisions if they feel they need to look at the replays.

I don’t really understand why they feel the need to constantly tinker with the rules.

 

[jurgen]

Well when your manager comes out with this, no wonder the fans are utterly deluded:

Pep Guardiola came out with a neat take on how he believes Manchester City are gracing football: “I think we dignify this sport, we dignify the people who pay to watch us and see how honest we are – to play for the people,” he said. “And, more than anything, I would like – when I finish my period here – to leave that."

Crikey. That's some weapons-grade lack of self-awareness from a man who pretends to occupy the moral high ground.

 

[Tucker]

Guardiola is a sour faced tit, but personally I don’t like the new rule and think it’s unnecessary to include all handballs ( accidental or otherwise) in the build up to the goal. The goal scorer themselves alone is sufficient imo.

I also don’t like the “unnatural position” crap either. Let the refs go back to making a judgement of whether a handball is deliberate or not ( apart from it directly hitting the goal scorer).

They could still use VAR for contentious decisions if they feel they need to look at the replays.

I don’t really understand why they feel the need to constantly tinker with the rules.

Pundits, fans and managers have been moaning about the handball laws since as long as I can remember. There’d be a controversial penalty, or goal given one week and disallowed the next. Then we’d be treated to days of Alan Shearer, Grahame Souness and the like begging the rule makers to change the law because the application of the law was so inconsistent.

Now the law has been firmed up, we should get more consistent decisions. I fully expect the pundits to keep moaning about it though.

 

[Flashspur]

?????

Is there such a thing as a sticky on Twitter? Comedy gold

 

[shelfmonkey]

I wonder if the goal had been given. The addenda would have gone the other way from the pundits.

They are generally just driven by controversy. It doesn’t matter which side of the fence it falls on.

Nah! It all depends on which club is getting the shit end of the stick. Had City been defending that corner against Norwich or Brighton etc and the exact same incident happened, it may have got a mention as being a tad harsh on the defending team, but no in depth debate would've occurred.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Just to stick my 2 penneth in, I used to live a 2 minute drive from City's ground.
When you come out of the away end the police shuffle you down the road towards the city centre/station. The immediate road borders one of the poorest/roughest estates in Manchester ; Berwick/Bradford. Away fans often get set upon there, kids from the estate (Im pretty convinced many haven't even been to the match) can cause some trouble and melt back into the estate, the police struggle to manage it because it's a really wide road and the gits hide in the trees, shout spurs songs then set upon the away fans who respond.
My advice is always to keep your heads down for the first half a mile

 

[riggi]

Is there such a thing as a sticky on Twitter? Comedy gold

I think you can pin your own tweet..

 

[NickHSpurs]

Inject this shit in my veins



And in the CL:

 

[spursfan77]

They’re still moaning. Dicks

 

[dagraham]

Pundits, fans and managers have been moaning about the handball laws since as long as I can remember. There’d be a controversial penalty, or goal given one week and disallowed the next. Then we’d be treated to days of Alan Shearer, Grahame Souness and the like begging the rule makers to change the law because the application of the law was so inconsistent.

Now the law has been firmed up, we should get more consistent decisions. I fully expect the pundits to keep moaning about it though.

Yeah, although I personally don’t like it, I agree that it should lead to more consistency in those particular situations.

Although (unless I’ve misinterpreted the rule myself), I believe if for instance that ball had hit Skipps hand accidentally instead of Laporte’s then it would not have been a penalty? As Skipps body/arms were not in an “unnatural position”. If that is the case then we have a situation where the laws of handball apply differently depending on whether you are an attacker or defender. Which isn’t particularly consistent to me, but I may have got that part of the updating rule wrong.

Also, the whole “unnatural position” business doesn’t seem like a black and white situation and still open to some interpretation. Have they shown an actual guideline of what they deem “unnatural”? It can be argued that jumping or sliding in with your hands behind your back or pinned to your sides is in fact the “unnatural position” instead.

So yeah, whilst the new handball laws may lead to more consistent decisions in some aspects, for me they also introduce other inconsistencies and interpretations. Which is why on the whole I still prefer the old deliberate or not rule determined by the refs judgement, with the added benefit now of being able to refer to the video replay if they are unsure.

 

[hughy]

Yeah, although I personally don’t like it, I agree that it should lead to more consistency in those particular situations.

Although (unless I’ve misinterpreted the rule myself), I believe if for instance that ball had hit Skipps hand accidentally instead of Laporte’s then it would not have been a penalty? As Skipps body/arms were not in an “unnatural position”. If that is the case then we have a situation where the laws of handball apply differently depending on whether you are an attacker or defender. Which isn’t particularly consistent to me, but I may have got that part of the updating rule wrong.

Also, the whole “unnatural position” business doesn’t seem like a black and white situation and still open to some interpretation. Have they shown an actual guideline of what they deem “unnatural”? It can be argued that jumping or sliding in with your hands behind your back or pinned to your sides is in fact the “unnatural position” instead.

So yeah, whilst the new handball laws may lead to more consistent decisions in some aspects, for me they also introduce other inconsistencies and interpretations. Which is why on the whole I still prefer the old deliberate or not rule determined by the refs judgement, with the added benefit now of being able to refer to the video replay if they are unsure.

This is the part that I really don't understand. It basically means that handball rules are different in each team's respective penalty area to anywhere else on the pitch, which is absolute bollocks.

 

[mightyspur]

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/will-var-lead-to-increased-football-violence.341816/

The title is essentially, "it's not our fault that Spurs fans were set upon yesterday, it's the fault of VAR".

To be fair, the thread is 50% a debate on VAR and there are some sensible one's in there talking down the nutters, but there are still nutters like the OP essentially saying "serves them right".

On the subject though; the Police are gonna need a recruitment drive just to cover weekends. It might just be that the mentality of the City fans (victim complex bordering on Liverpool levels) has seen a bigger reaction than would happen at other clubs. However, there are plenty of low IQ man babies at every club who are gonna cause trouble and the police need to already start thinking ahead.

That thread is full blown AIDS. The state of some people. Absolute bellends.

 

[Trix]

No different to how obstruction is fine if you are shielding the ball out of play to how it is an automatic foul in the middle of the pitch.

 

[JW72]

Yeah, although I personally don’t like it, I agree that it should lead to more consistency in those particular situations.

Although (unless I’ve misinterpreted the rule myself), I believe if for instance that ball had hit Skipps hand accidentally instead of Laporte’s then it would not have been a penalty? As Skipps body/arms were not in an “unnatural position”. If that is the case then we have a situation where the laws of handball apply differently depending on whether you are an attacker or defender. Which isn’t particularly consistent to me, but I may have got that part of the updating rule wrong.

If City hadn't 'scored' after it hit Laporte's hand (eg Lloris had tipped it away for a corner) it wouldn't have been a free kick to us either.

 

[SlotBadger]

That thread is full blown AIDS. The state of some people. Absolute bellends.

Not really sure why I'm doing it to myself (especially at the cost of doing my actual job) but I'm slowly working my way through every page.

A scarcity it may be but they do harbour at least one human being:

It's an emotional game, but if you can't control your anger you need serious help and YOU are worse than VAR if you resort to violence.

If I was a Spurs fan I'd be delighted with yesterday's result, I wouldn't rub it in and I wouldn't expect another bloke caving my head either.

Emotion is swings and roundabouts, if we win this league, it'll be better than any other.

But do us all a favour, dont get all hissy and want to hurt someone because a game didn't go your way, stay away from the game, it's not yours to damage.

 

[worcestersauce]

I bet the next time City get an extra time goal no sod celebrates just in case.

 

[Marty]

Inject this shit in my veins



And in the CL:

VLogging during matches should result in immediate ejection and a six month ban from all stadiums.


Worse than hooligans.