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Match Threads Spurs vs Arsenal

Date
Apr 28, 2024
KO Time
2:00pm

Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 51 24.4%
  • Arsenal Win

    Votes: 116 55.5%
  • Draw

    Votes: 42 20.1%

  • Total voters
    209

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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This has come from someone on Reddit that apparently Robbie Earle said Oliver was told to look at the screen. I have seen it repeated all day and no clip has been posted anywhere. I struggle to believe it.
 

Graham Minshall

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Jan 24, 2016
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This has come from someone on Reddit that apparently Robbie Earle said Oliver was told to look at the screen. I have seen it repeated all day and no clip has been posted anywhere. I struggle to believe it.
If, IF, this is true this is something the refs association would try to keep quiet, it’s like when Mike Dean earlier in the season came out and said the VAR officials look after their mates.

A few season ago when we lost at Arsenal 2-1 the winner was a penalty when, I can’t remember if it was ambamayang or Lacacette who was supposed to have been fouled by Sanchez, but, when watched back it was the arsenal player who made contact with Sanchez.

the ref was Oliver, and was reported to have said to VAR that he didn’t need it to be reviewed, because he had seen what had happened, so if it’s true he refused to go to the screen he has form for it!
 

Mr Pink

SC Supporter
Aug 25, 2010
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If, IF, this is true this is something the refs association would try to keep quiet, it’s like when Mike Dean earlier in the season came out and said the VAR officials look after their mates.

A few season ago when we lost at Arsenal 2-1 the winner was a penalty when, I can’t remember if it was ambamayang or Lacacette who was supposed to have been fouled by Sanchez, but, when watched back it was the arsenal player who made contact with Sanchez.

the ref was Oliver, and was reported to have said to VAR that he didn’t need it to be reviewed, because he had seen what had happened, so if it’s true he refused to go to the screen he has form for it!

And yet he misses Rice on Davies for the clear penalty no more tha 5 yards from it
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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Thought this was really interesting and certainly bodes well for the future.

Also sums up how I was feeling with that first half.

Honestly, had Arsenal not got lucky with those calls we would have certainly been going in at HT feeling like we would do them in the second half.




The worrying thing is life that luck falls back on our side, we'll probably beat City 😬
 

DenverSpur

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Sep 25, 2011
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The football analysts along with the journalists make up a narrative depending on the result and also depending on the related story of one or more of the teams, but not in what actually happened over the 90 minutes. So Arsenal going for the title 3-0 up at half time obviously must have been the better team and in the second half they let Tottenham back into it. That 2 of their goals were from set pieces and that they created very little from open play is not mentioned. Neither is Us having a very close offside goal denied, hitting the post and a decent penalty claim turned down( which led to their 2nd goal) mentioned because it doesn’t fit the narrative that title chasing Arsenal deservedly triumphed.
Regarding the post above I wrote yesterday The Daily Mail’s Players Ratings had this:

PEDRO PORRO: 6

Battled away in the face of multiple Arsenal waves of attack, particularly in the first half.
Did I watch a different game? What “waves of attack”?

also
BUKAYO SAKA: 8

Well-executed corner resulted in opening goal. And then got his own goal after turning Davies inside out.

and
KAI HAVERTZ: 8.5

Great assist for Saka’s goal and then nabbed a header off a corner. Top display.
Look I know I’m biased but really 8 and 8.5 because they can take a corner and pass the ball along with scoring the goals! I can’t remember anything else they did of note. Like I say maybe I’m just biased and intentionally missed their great performances.
To be honest I hate when they award MOM to the goal scorer even when he had an anonymous overall performance. It’s such an American thing.
 

DenverSpur

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Sep 25, 2011
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Thought this was really interesting and certainly bodes well for the future.

Also sums up how I was feeling with that first half.

Honestly, had Arsenal not got lucky with those calls we would have certainly been going in at HT feeling like we would do them in the second half.




The worrying thing is life that luck falls back on our side, we'll probably beat City 😬

I don’t see any key statistical observations?
 

DannyNZ

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Jul 3, 2017
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Maybe. I haven’t had any pundits telling me what happened yet In micro detail. I watched it in the stadium and haven’t watched any TV highlights. I was watching what was going on pitch wide not what tv cameras were highlighting on and wasn’t highlighting every weakness in slow motion. I’ll have a look probably but I can only comment at the moment on what I saw in the stadium with all the emotion of a live spectacle. Holjbjerg was doing the work of two men while Bentancur and Maddison fannied about - two of my favourite players usually by the way. He picked himself up after the horror of the own goal and he worked his socks off. He doesn’t have the silky football skills of Lolo and Madders but he didn‘t shirk anything. Why people want scapegoats I have no idea, never have, but he doesn’t deserve it when there are plenty in front of him.
Yep he wasn’t bad at all, the own goal was unfortunate but he put in a good effort. If hadn’t seen the first 10 games of the season I’d be seriously questioning what Maddison contributes.
 

DannyNZ

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Jul 3, 2017
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No I picked up on that….. how you can do that is beyond me, you aren’t challenging for a ball… you are physically pushing two handed last ditch to push a player going for a shot… it’s just not acceptable. I do not understand the rules on the box any more quite frankly
Looks like you’re not alone, Oliver struggled with them all day.
 

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