This adds a bit of 'colour'. Worth a read.
ttps://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/brand-management/dybala-image-rights-issue-highlights-growing-importance-ip-sports-stars
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This adds a bit of 'colour'. Worth a read.
ttps://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/brand-management/dybala-image-rights-issue-highlights-growing-importance-ip-sports-stars
doctor stefan Freud
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Thank you.
I’m struggling to understand the issue of image rights not being recognised in the Premier League and the implications of this. Surely if Dybala comes to us, then we can use his image in club associated media and merchandise and the company that owns his IP can’t do fuck all about it because it’s associated from within a territory that doesn’t recognise the ownership of his IP rights?
WannaDanceWithUdogie
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don't know if anyone has picked up on this but he put a picture up of juve on his Instagram with the 'home' Emoji
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Imagine if he signs a new contract with them now, or something silly like that.
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I bet he wants to. After all, he wasn't the one that wanted to leave.
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http://www.skysports.com/share/11785618
Let’s hope it stays this way
Let’s hope it stays this way
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As I understand it part of the issue is that because of the mandatory agreement with the Premier league the Premier League itself can call on any and all of a club's players to carry out some Premier league promotions and various PR activities, this being the case they don't want to have to ask the third party for permission to use the player, refusal of which could cause difficulty with sponsors who may request a particular player and this is why they insist on the clubs owning the image rights.
For this service the Premier League pay the club at a certain rate and won't countenance paying a third party at an unspecified rate in which case they would still pay the club the going rate but the club would have to settle up with the third party at whatever rate they demand The club can't refuse the PL request but will have to pay the third party which means the club has no control over their outgoings. I can't guarantee this is the exact situation but it is certainly the gyst of it and there may be other issues as well.
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FIFA should work out a way forward where everyone benefits and standardise an approach to this topic.
Perhaps they're already doing this?
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Ban the owning of image rights by a third party would be the best way. From what I have read these companies latch on to young players from a poor background and offer them very little compared to what a player would make if he makes it big.
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The image rights holder may not have a claim against Spurs or the PL in this scenario, but would have a claim against Dybala that he is in breach of their image rights agreement.
hellava_tough
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I understand your sentiment and agree that in many cases these companies are parasitic in nature.
But in fairness, they are guaranteeing a lump sum of cash, which they might not get a return on if the player gets injured, etc. And you'll probably find that there are many players from really poor backgrounds that benefit by having an injection of cash early on in their career.
So a blanket ban may not be the best way forward.
Perhaps a buy-out clause at a fair market rate, or some sort of fixed term contracts? I'm sure the clever financial bods can come up with a system that mixes utility, ROI and that doesn't exploit players and their families.
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It should be definitely be policed much better and I can see why young players from poor backgrounds do it, but as Dybala has seen its done him out of a move and is not forced to stay at a club that doesn't seem to want him.
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Sometimes I wish life could be like Back to the Future 2
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https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/calciomercato-juventus-aggiornamenti-news-trattative-13-agosto
From Di Marzio, who Juve fans consider Tier 1:
"And Dybala? The Argentine at the moment is not in the crosshairs of other foreign clubs: Bayern Monaco thinks of Coutinho with a "James Rodriguez" formula, while PSG have not have taken steps for the former Palermo. For now he does not look set to depart Juventus, unlike Luca Pellegrini (Cagliari), Perin, Mandzukic and Rugani. These five exits would lead Juventus not to have to make cuts in the list for Serie A, having 17 "free" players in the squad plus Pinsoglio (the third goalkeeper) and four players raised in Italian youth system."
From Di Marzio, who Juve fans consider Tier 1:
"And Dybala? The Argentine at the moment is not in the crosshairs of other foreign clubs: Bayern Monaco thinks of Coutinho with a "James Rodriguez" formula, while PSG have not have taken steps for the former Palermo. For now he does not look set to depart Juventus, unlike Luca Pellegrini (Cagliari), Perin, Mandzukic and Rugani. These five exits would lead Juventus not to have to make cuts in the list for Serie A, having 17 "free" players in the squad plus Pinsoglio (the third goalkeeper) and four players raised in Italian youth system."
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JKendall13
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I think it just means that right now he doesn't have any suitors, despite Juventus being willing to sell.
The consensus among some of our reliable journalists is that Dybala would be wearing a Spurs kit right now had he not sold his image rights to that agency. No clue if ITK have commented on it or not, though.
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If he doesn't leave in this window, I can't see why we wouldn't go back in for him in January, assuming the image rights problem can be solved given more time (and that was the reason the deal didn't materialise). In fact we could have the deal all set up for him to sign on January 1st.
A lot will hinge on what happens with Neymar I think.
A lot will hinge on what happens with Neymar I think.
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Last I heard, Barcelona's representatives were flying to Paris to talk to PSG about Neymar. I have no idea if that's an accurate description of the truth, but it's what I saw on SSN yesterday.
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